BellaNaijarians, Mother of Conjoined Twins calls for Help as Hospital in Enugu denies Parents’ Requests

Enugu Ayeni Twins copyOnce again, we see the injustice in Nigeria.
Mr & Mrs Ayeni welcomed beautiful twin girls named Miracle and Testimony Ayeni,  4 months ago, sadly, their twins are conjoined. Since their birth, they have been hospitalized. Though they are in good health, the complexities of being conjoined have led to this.

Testimony AyeniThe twins are at University of Nigeria Teaching Hospital (UNTH) in Enugu.

Due to publicity online, several hospitals in the United States of America are interested in the case. However, in order to move forward, detailed medical reports are needed including an MRI and CT Scan.
These have been done, however, the hospital in Enugu is REFUSING to release it.

The mother of the twins, Mary Ayeni is crying out for help.
See below.

We have to commend actress Caroline Danjuma as her Hopeville Foundation has been covering the twins’ bills as well as raising awareness for this case.

See the message from Caroline shared via Instagram below;

My little angels are 4 months old today … Unfortunately I have to speak up on behalf of this kids and the parents. The hospital they are in right now are bent on operating on them when they don’t have the equipments. Hospitals in Texas and Canada have asked for their MRI scan and CT scan to see if they can assist this children but the hospital in Enugu has refused to give it to them , when I personally called a certain prof obiayo she asked me what the hospital abroad needed it for. What a funny question. The hospital went as far as publishing in the newspaper that they would need 5m for the surgery without informing the parents . To them it’s all about the money . The mother has been crying for fear of loosing her daughters. The hospital has refused to communicate with the parents but are only concerned with making a name and money through this innocent babies. Giving out their personal bank Acc without the consent of the family . They said we should keep the kids in the hospital for 9 months before operation by my research those babies don’t need to stay for that long if they ain’t sharing any organs. This babies are handed over to student doctors and that scares me most. I have decided to voice out cause I have been the one consoling the parents since I got involved but right now I am extremely livid at the selfishness and non caring attitude of the doctors. The parents can speak for them selves . Hopeville foundation will continue to do its best . Unfortunately the hospital in Enugu is refusing to assist.
This hospital has engaged in shady behaviour such as soliciting for funds for the babies without the permission of the parents! In addition, they are insisting on doing the surgery in-house despite lack of evidence that they have the competence to successfully separate the twins.

Pressure needs to be put on the hospital to release the medical results and cooperate with the family.

The wellbeing of the children and the parents’ wishes come first! The hospital has no right to withhold any information or insist on any actions especially as the parents are fully involved and stable.
The family does not need money now. We need to help fight for the rights of the Ayenis as well as Miracle and Testimony to ensure they receive the best medical care.

58 Comments on BellaNaijarians, Mother of Conjoined Twins calls for Help as Hospital in Enugu denies Parents’ Requests
  • Kiiki March 25, 2016 at 5:25 am

    What kind if craziness is going on at that hospital????!!!! Has it gotten to this? Why risk the wellbeing and safety if these angels????? Ma ka gini bikonu ????????????????

    Shame on University of Nigeria Teaching Hospital (UNTH) , Enugu?????!! Professor Issac Adewole, able Minister of Health please where are you? Governor Ifeanyi Ugwuanyi where are you? Help this family!

    Biko everyone, let’s act on this! Tag all media houses (Local and International)! Scream at the top of our voices! This nonsense must be dealt with! These kids need to be taken care of and not treated like lab rats.

    Bella Naija, thank you for putting this up! We need to shed more light on this.

    • zee March 25, 2016 at 7:56 am

      Dey said “hospital in enugu” and der are 2 teaching hospitals in enugu!!!!! Wat mks yu think its UNTH?????!!!!!!

      • Miss_Flygerian March 25, 2016 at 12:18 pm

        Because she watched the videos. If you did as well, you would have heard when the lady in question said they are in UNTH Ituku-Ozalla.

      • Kiiki March 25, 2016 at 2:41 pm

        No words for you.

      • Kiiki March 25, 2016 at 2:42 pm

        Thanks Miss_Flygerian

  • Jades March 25, 2016 at 5:49 am

    Please .I suggest that hopeville simply involves a lawyer.who knows the legal boundaries of the hospital .This will help the case.Secondly.I await update on Bella Naija or through my mail as I am interested in contributing in saving these beautiful lives.

  • Cookie March 25, 2016 at 6:04 am

    Welcome to the court of Public opinion. Though we appreciate your bringing this public, we cannot make critical analysis and decisions of this case as we don’t have facts, only tales. A one sided tale.
    Of course Nigerians love pity-me stories and many will curse out UNTH as you win some public pity but then,
    1. UnTH has every right to withhold medical information. The hospitals in USA and Canada cannot request for patient information just like that – there is a process for record transfer. Such information is confidential, and legally protected by law.
    2. Let UNTH try requesting for any patient data from USA and see if anything will be released, never, not even patients initials
    3. Every teaching hospital uses student doctors, that is the way knowledge is transferred from one generation to another. Even the USA you’re rushing to will definitely use student doctors in this case
    4. Don’t think USA or Canada care about your conjoined twins, it’s just another case they can use to raise the profile of their hospital surgeons. And it’s about money too for them. Who doesn’t want another Ben Carson story. Every country/hospital have their own agenda
    5. UNTH has the right equipment and professionals, though the patient and parents have the right to choose their preferred medical providers
    6. UNTH can withhold discharge if the hospital bills are unpaid or the twins are not yet in good health. (The picture provided is not medical proof of good health. Someone can look good and yet be unhealthy) However if parents insist, they can DAMA. Discharge against Medical Advice
    7. If the NGO involved has any structure, then they should go about it the right way. This is a medical case and there are procedures. You made strong allegations against the hospital. Sue them if you must
    8. Finally, is it true????? I’m done believing social media stories

    Verdict: inconclusive, until we hear from the accused party!

    • Cookie the Abe ile dokta March 25, 2016 at 6:28 am

      You are a fool.

      • Eny March 25, 2016 at 7:28 am

        That was unnecessary! You don’t have to agree with him/her but it’s his/her opinion! Haba.

      • Cocolette March 25, 2016 at 8:06 am

        No she is not a fool! If they paid for their MRI and CT scan, they can take the results to wherever in the world they want to. If this was just about MRI and CT scan results, I’m sure the parents or Caroline would have sued the hospital by now because in fact, no hospital or laboratory can withold your test results once they have been paid for by you.
        I feel like Caroline and the parents are asking that UNTH ‘REFERS’ them to a foreign hospital for treatment which would not be possible seeing as UNTH has facilities and well trained medical personnel to carry out this operation (please google Prof Nene Obianyo) hence no REASON FOR REFFERAL. UNTH cannot just start correspondence with a foreign hospital because Caroline asked them to, there are procedures for medical correspondence and I’m sure the foreign hospitals know that too.
        In a case where you do not want to use the services of a hospital anymore even though the hospital has resources to conveniently treat you, you DISCHARGE AGAINST MEDICAL ADVICE!
        Assuming this story is just about MRI and CT scan redults, The parents should pay the bills they already incurred in the hospital, discharge against medical advice, get the children to the US and do all the necessary tests, have surgery and then when the children are well come back and sue UNTH for not releasing their test results that they paid for with their money

    • Missappleberry March 25, 2016 at 6:50 am

      I can’t love your comment here. Very analytical. Everyone here seem to be looking at the story from only one angle. I appreciate your common sense. Best of luck to all parties involved.

      • Missappleberry March 25, 2016 at 6:51 am

        *love your comment enough*

    • Uju March 25, 2016 at 7:31 am

      The parents have all the rights to the CT scan and MRI. Whatever they chose to do with it or share it with is up to them.

    • Moi March 25, 2016 at 8:12 am

      I seriously laugh my a** out for ur comment that we have competent professionals. I are just a joke. Ok just humor me… How many good plastic surgeons do we have that can do a good reconstructive surgery on those kids on their privates after they are separated or I think it’s only about chopping them into two??
      And If the hospitals are doing it to increase their profile at least they are capable?
      And before I continue with my rant, are you a mother/father (whoever you may be)????????

      • Professor X March 25, 2016 at 1:42 pm

        I highly doubt this surgery can be done in Nigeira. By the way, this would be multiple surgeries. You will have to separate the conjoined genitourinary and gastrointestinal systems. Will they need a new-bladder? A diverting colostomy? Vaginal reconstruction? What about anal canal? Neonatal ICU facilitates? Best believe,this kind of surgeries are best to left to select elite teaching hospitals. UNTH is not it (mind you, I’m an Enugu girl). A beg, leave trash for LASTMA. Send this kids to the US

        Also, the parents can do a self-referral. UNTH doesn’t have to correspond with any hospital. They just have to start the work-up process over again. Although, it would be easier to secure a travel visa if they have appropriate medical records from Nigeria too.

      • NIRA March 26, 2016 at 2:22 am

        @CocoleTte, prof. Nene Obiano is good, but not that good biko. She handled my sister’s Urinary Bladder Extrophy case and I can assure you that my sister is still not fully okay. UNTH and a lot of Nigerian hospitals do these things, struggling to keep patients even when they can’t treat them. They want to use these kids to teach the student doctors. When my dad had cancer, we went to UNTH and they were angry with us for going to India first! They said they could treat him, yet he was given only drip for about a week until my dad asked to be discharged cos he knew he wasn’t receiving treatment there. Even the Prof that asked us to come there didn’t see him for a day. Forge all these govt. Hospitals.

    • Anonymous March 25, 2016 at 1:50 pm

      You have to be an ignorant fool. And that is a really bad combination. Medical records belong to the patient not the hospital. She needs help to move the children to a different hospital and have the investigative processes, MRI done again and sent to the interested parties of that is what they want.

    • Nik March 25, 2016 at 3:20 pm

      My dear, get your facts straight before you type up something online. Yes, UNTH can request for medical records in USA and get it. get your facts straight. If UNTH has the right equipments as you stated (forgetting you claimed a second ago you didnt have all the facts), please, provide proof that they have all the right equipments, and while you are at it, provide evidence of such surgeries that have been carried out successfully in UNTH or anywhere in Nigeria for that matter.

      You dont like the actress getting involved or typing up what she wrote—fine, but dont come here writing wrong facts about what you dont know. Once again, I repeat, UNTH can get medical records of a patient they are treating from an American Hospital and yes, American Hospital has the right to ask for medical records. They ask for that for every international case coming to their hospital. They would request for the records directly if the patient was already with them but since the patient is not yet in their care, they would ask the concerned parties to send the paper work to them first and yes, they have the right to determine if they can handle such a case or not.
      Yes, everyone wants another ben carson story including you, but what you failed to notice is that there have been successful cases after Ben Carson. For all you know, the hospitals requesting medical records may not be equipped to handle the cases and unlike naija where medical practitioners get away with certain things, the hospital will be in trouble if they know they cant handle the case and still go ahead to take it up. whether you like it or not, conjoined twins surgery is a “big” story for whoever gets it.

      BTW, i type this from experience.

    • Zeebs March 25, 2016 at 4:04 pm

      My friend, which medical ethics book are you referring to?
      1. UNTH or any hospital in the world for that matter has NO right to withhold a ptient’s medical records from the patient. The patients here are minors and unable to decide for themselves and in this case, their ‘closest and dearest’ takes this decision for them. Closest and dearest aka ‘MOTHER’
      2. On your #5 you said UNTH had the right equipment and personnel…. Which of the UNTHs are you referring to… the media stunt one or the one that is almost perpetually on strike, hasn’t got a paediatric ICU and struggles with intensive surgery facilities? Do you realise those kids share the hip joint? Don’t you think they would need more than a mono-staged surgery process. Who in UNTH can do the reconstructive orthopaedic surgery for them? It is a system I somewhat know well…. We all do , to an extent. Human life costs less than a barrel of diesel in some parts of Nigeria ( Literally speaking). I do not think ‘Caroline ‘ is making this up… I also do not think that her reported statements are ludicrous….
      However, dear Caroline, someone above said exactly what you should do. Discharge your wards against medical advice, if they are clinically stable. Take them to a private radiology suite in Enugu and have your scans done. They will give you CDs of it same day. Send it to your would-be benefactors.
      If they need a clinical referral take them to a paediatric surgeon at National Hospital/ LUTH to review the kids and the scans and write the referral. There’s no point using someone’s kids’ lives to do some professional bravado.
      These kids are in dire straits, if not life-wise, mobility wise. Since they have an opportunity to better care looming at them, please grab it as soon and as quickly as you can!

      The MDCN as usual cycles away from a situation like this. Isn’t this professional misconduct being levied here?

    • triple D. March 26, 2016 at 4:45 pm

      Please fellow concerned citizens, enough of the media war. Madam Danjuma is not worth all this. 1. The parents of the twins have not complained that they want to go. 2. The parents of the twins even abandoned the twins, it was the hospital that encouraged them that something could be done. 3. The hospital is not doing a fundraising for the children. 4. The family is dealing with the hospital management not the prof, the patient just happen to be in her unit. 5. Have Nigerian’s wondered how these children have survived till date. 6. If these children were released to their parents before now,those twins would have been disposed by their parents before now.7. The hospital management have not refused to release any inform requested for. 8. Madam Danjuma called the prof twice, 1st to introduce her self as a cheap blackmail, threaten the prof. Asking her to Google her profile. Please let’s get our facts right. Madam Danjuma there is God. But know that justice will take its course.

  • fleur March 25, 2016 at 6:05 am

    This is a violation of human rights. Where are the human rights lawyers? They should sue this hospital. Where is the federal government and medical board? Don’t the parents have the right to refuse treatment? Is this not imprisonment?. This needs to be on cnn. this is how my father was murdered. They gave him chemo. Never told him he was drinking chemo tablets. Refused to label the bottles. He Lost his sense of taste. As an md, I knew only one thing could wipe out your taste buds given his condition. I called the doctor wanting to know his meds. The murderer said I was challenging his ability to give my father proper care. I told my pops to stop taking all his meds but it was too late. He also gave him an overdose that completely discolored his bones in 3 weeks. I pray all the doctor’s loved ones -his children and children’s children die a useless death. MURDERERS. Release the babies now! !!

  • Me. T March 25, 2016 at 6:12 am

    Hopeville foundation said they do not have any equipment and this is definitely not true because i have been to that hospital and they do have some equipment. That surgery can definitely be performed in house and UNTH would not be risking their reputation by insisting they would perform the surgery. I know you rich people eg. Caroline Danjuma’ believes foreign medical care is the solution to all our problems but UNTH has trained some of the best doctors in america and canada today.

    Waiting for 9 months means the kids organs would be mature enough and they will make sure they do not share any organs at all. You’re not a medical expert. These foreign hospitals are also going to use them as lab rats and increase their reputation too. Let UNTH handle their case as long as they are well taken care of

    • Californiabawlar March 25, 2016 at 7:14 am

      If the parents say they don’t want nko? Let them train the best doctors in Mars, if their expertise is not wanted and appreciated by the patient, how dare you hold them ransom?
      Egbami!! Can’t believe you’re justifying this…Some Nigerians don’t have any sense of personal dignity and ownership!!
      Let the children go!! I respect Nigerian doctors o, but they have LIMITED RESOURCES; number 1 bring NEPA! I’ve heard of operations at government hospitals with torchlight! Abeg anyone who takes their Hippocratic oath seriously would and should encourage any patient that can afford and make a trip abroad to give birth (not to mention separating conjoined twins).
      You noticed I said encourage/advice? It’s definitely not their place to give consent.

      Our country is a weird one…especially when you see such irresponsible show of oppression by people that are educated.

    • Uju March 25, 2016 at 7:33 am

      Let the parents decide who they want to handle their case.

    • Nik March 25, 2016 at 3:22 pm

      wow! did you hear yourself? They have “SOME” equipments. wow! Lets hope you are never in such a situation where someone else will say keep her in the hospital, we have SOME equipments to handle her. na wah

    • Zeebs March 25, 2016 at 4:13 pm

      UNTH has trained one of the best medical practitioners in 1st world nations. Indisputable fact.
      The training they got at UNTH made them ‘the best’ immediately they got to those nations. Fallacy!
      The College of Medicine UNN is one of the best in the world and has trained so many of us to be quite ‘good’ and confident wherever we are. No doubt. The hospital? One of the most dysfunctional settings I’ve ever encountered. It doesn’t stand out in Nigeria (in its dysfunctionality, that is) because the entire govt health system is dysfunctional. However, to say these kids will receive comparable care because UNTH has got ‘ equipment’, is driving me up a thorny path! Why do we lie to ourselves so Why???

  • fleur March 25, 2016 at 6:13 am

    In fact I am terribly annoyed. Medical records can be released when the owner signs a consent form. In the US they either give it to you the owner or you can request that it is sent by the hospital for a fee if necessary. The woman has paid for the services granted get. She paid for the CT scan. It is her property. When you buy a dress or cat is the transaction complete without you leaving with the merchandise you paid for.? @cookie,which party odd the US are you talking about? Please you are wrong. Looks like you are the medical director of the enough hospital. RELEASE THE BABIES NOW AND STOP TRYING TO DO SURGERY YOU DON’T HAVE SKILLS OR RESOURCES FOR BY FORCE BECAUSE OF MONEY.

  • Moi March 25, 2016 at 6:14 am

    Oh I’m crying right now…This is painful remembered how i would have lost mine if I had not that I travelled out to birth him.Why do we go that far to legal boundaries. They are her babies for Christ sake give her her children. she has every right to carry them and shouldn’t stay long being conjoined. What wickedness

  • fleur March 25, 2016 at 6:14 am

    “@cookie, which part of the US are you from? Looks like you are the medical director of the enugu hospital” -autocorrect stealing my vibe!

  • laila March 25, 2016 at 6:15 am

    I have to respond to the @cookie

    I understand your perspective BUT in the USA and Canada (plus Nigeria), patient records are released once consent has been given by the patient or parents in the case of a minor. As you can see, the parents have CLEARLY consented.
    So what is the hold up? What is it?
    What about the hospital soliciting for funds WITHOUT the consent of the parents!!

    I am sure you do not live in Nigeria. In the government sector especially there is so much useless bureaucracy and needless sense of I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU especially from supposed Professors and the likes.

    You say the hospitals in Canada and USA do not care and want to use the case for attention. Well, it does NOT matter. Such delicate operations require EXPERIENCE, EQUIPMENT and PRACTICE. Tell me how many conjoined twins have been successfully separated at UNCH in Enugu or even in the whole country.
    Even if UNCH has the equipment as you said, any surgeon will tell you that experience makes a HUGE difference. There is no expert surgeon that will say “I have done this operation once or twice”, why would a parent choose an option where the doctor did the surgery last in 1980 while another option, the surgeon has done 10 successfully in 1 year?

    You say they should sue? LOL Nigerian justice system is slow as !$^O*

    The parents are clearly mentally stable enough to make decisions for their children. Let me tell you, the real injustice in Nigeria is ECONOMIC Standing aka wealth status.

    If these were children of a rich person, I dare any Doctor or Professor to withhold the records. Lai lai NEVER! They will be smiling with the parents and going over and above. I hope and pray these beautiful babies get the proper medical attention they need.

  • laila March 25, 2016 at 6:25 am

    I forgot to add, modern medicine does not advocate extremely long hospital stays. Why should the children be in the hospital for 9 MONTHS!
    Hospitals are breeding grounds for infections, staying so long except absolutely necessary is not good for the children’s development, it is not good for maternal bonding and so many other reasons. If they are healthy other than being conjoined, every effort should be made to transition them home with regular hospital visits.

    Nothing can convince me that the hospital has pure intentions. Upon all, they are still charging the family bills. If they care so much, the bills should be waived.

  • onnari,s friend March 25, 2016 at 6:42 am

    So you think that if released their parents will give them better living conditions than they currently have at the hospital? That professor in question has successfully separated conjoined twins in the past. She is a mothe herself, a professional and knows the medical implications. Is there any evidence that the hospital publicly solicited For funds? UNTH has equipments it is one of the best medical schools in Nigeria. I would rather the kids are treated abroad though because of ‘better conditions, emergency response, logistics etc, But please let us not accuse accuse hospital of wrong doing especially where we do not have the facts…

    • Hello March 25, 2016 at 6:52 am

      So what if she has done 2 conjoined separations in the past? So? Aunty it is not by force to use these twins as your 3rd case.

      A mother is on the Internet begging for her twins’ records to be released. If the Doctor is truly a professional and a mother, she should respect that. Let the parents make their choice. The hospital should be transparent and communicate. Doctors and Professors, you are not God.
      I have personally experienced it where supposedly qualified Doctors got it very wrong. Praying for the babies.

    • Zeebs March 25, 2016 at 4:08 pm

      Can we be objective and logical here. You sound like ‘an insider’
      Onnari’s friend, the UNTH of today can not successfully do this separation. The ones done in the past were successful ‘on the table’. Babes, didn’t they die afterwards?
      Please, no one in their right frame of mind should ever compare healthcare available in the US to that available in Nigeria. Especially when it has to do with such a super specialised field of endeavour. If na your pikin, you go leave am for UNTH?

      Empathy, guys! Empathy and compassion, please!!!

  • Uju March 25, 2016 at 7:37 am

    Well done Caroline !!!!

  • Uju March 25, 2016 at 7:46 am

    Forget the CT and MRI, they should just discharge mum and twins so that hospital bills don’t pile up..They can then do another one overseas or in private .I will personally donate.

    Typical ‘God’ complex.

    Give the parents all the information and let them chose. Even if the choice is a poor choice by your standards, it is their choice.

    That’s what informed consent means.

    It clearly doesn’t apply to Nigerian hospitals unless you are a ‘big man’.
    Makes me really sad and angry.

  • bruno March 25, 2016 at 8:01 am

    nigerian doctors are monsters in lab coats. who gave u the right to release medical records of a patient.
    una no get equipment or facilities but u want to separate conjoined twins. The nigerian doctors want fame, ben carson things.

    this is kidnapping. if they say they dont want ur help anymore who are u to force it on them.

    once I read that part, STUDENT DOCTORS, I started to become worried. madame they want to use ur kids as practical. carry ur kids and run. run as fast as ur legs can carry u.

    go to america or canada were they will do a better job with proper equipments etc.

    nigerian doctors will murder ur kids for u. common appendix operation many of them cant do. patients are dying from appendix operation in nigeria.

    madame pls run with u kids.

  • marlvina March 25, 2016 at 8:14 am

    Release the medical reports and let this children be flown abroad for proper surgery. Oh Lord intervene. Healthy looking beautiful girls. Sobs!

  • fort March 25, 2016 at 9:11 am

    There is no chain holding the. Mother and. Babies. down in the hospital,settle hospital bills and take ur kids to ur place of preference, I will like to hear from de doctor or hospital regarding de matter, all dis social media insults Is too much for a respectable medical doctor. My advice is for her to save her self and the hospital the name calling and jus release the children. The US Embassy and. Canadian embassy will still reguire a proper medical report from the doctor and also so check de status of the parents to make sure de don’t bail out after treatment , don’t burn ur bridges no matter wat.

  • lili March 25, 2016 at 9:14 am

    Madam cookie I can feel your madness. The hospital is well equiped, the doctoe is experienced. Bull shit. Common head ache and giving birth your celebrities and government ifficials run to america and you are here askinf this woman to let her twins be operated in Nigeria. The parents have made their decision let the hospital respect that full stop. I can bet my two cents that if those were the wicked prof’s children, his wife would have given birth in america. Medical doctors with no ethics. The poor have really suffered

  • lili March 25, 2016 at 9:16 am

    Sorry for the typos. This touch sreen is really not my thing.

  • I can’t shout! March 25, 2016 at 9:23 am

    Nigerians ; vilifying the doctors since 1900. Smh. UNTH is a teaching hospital. Students participate in the treatment of a patient MAINLY BY OBSERVATION so guys chill already. Even as a house officer there was a large limit to the cases we had access to talkless of medical students “using them for practical”. There are always two sides to every story. Where was this woman diagnosed during antenatal? How was she referred to UNTH. Who paid medical bills up to the point of delivery? The UNTH I know is so open and porous; patients abscond all the time so trust me no one is “kidnapping ” this woman. If a case was referred to a tertiary institution and they have all it takes to handle the case (which UNTH very well has) then there is no need for a referral. However the patient is free to sign a DAMA form and take any of the investigations WHICH SHE /He HAS PAID for and go away. If the madam Prof has been the one sponsoring investigations up until this point ; then nobody can arm twist her into handing them over by word of mouth just because aunty Caro said so. There is no need for all these media war. Parents of the twins sign DAMA and go. Aunty Caro pay for new CT scan and MRI (a combination of both are less than 150k). Take them to “the abroad ” like u want to and cough out the millions that will be needed for their surgery. Make sure u have a plan to sustain their treatments and check up visits for most of their lives which they will need . Don’t just use them to do show this year and go away tomorrow.
    The truth of the matter is everyone has a selfish agenda in this case. UNTH oh, oyibo doctor oh, aunty Caro oh, they all just want to be part of the success story so please no one should make madam Prof the villan in this issue. Of all of the above she may be the one with the best intents towards the kids…

    • Mee March 25, 2016 at 11:23 am

      The professor has better intentions towards the kids than their own mother abi?
      It’s not by force, I don’t know why Nigerians doctors have this God complex. A very well known, well respected Nigerian orthopedic surgeon did an operation on my dad’s femur. When we sent the post-ops X-rays for second and third opinions, it was clear that he did a bad job. When we went back to him, he kept on saying “oh you don’t trust me, you don’t think I know what I’m doing, I give lectures internationally etc”. Instead of him to look at the opinions from colleagues, he was so defensive. Medicine is a field where you are always learning, if you think you are the end-all-be-all, there’s no way you can learn and it will be most unfortunate.
      We calmly took my dad abroad and I kid you know, the post-of X-rays compared to the first are like night and day. 3 months later, there’s been so much progressed. Compared to 9 months after the Nigerian super star ortho did the survey and it was just like the first day.
      All this is to say that our Nigerian healthcare system is pretty much non existent. But kudos and admiration to the few health professionals who are doing their best and remain HUMBLE enough to serve humanity. Go see doctors in the Scandinavian countries and you would fall in love with the practice of medicine. Not what we have here, at least the majority of what I have encountered in naij.

    • bruno March 25, 2016 at 11:23 am

      u sound angry and pained cause nigerians know and have witnessed the incompetence and carelessness of most naija doctors. it is the truth. we are behaving this way because we know how naija doctors are. we dont have faith in naija doctors.

      the woman said she is not doing, is it by force. leave her.

      I agree with u on everyone involved has an agenda , everyone wants to be part of the success story. miss danjuma I can see right thru u. I applaud u but I can see right thru u.

    • fleur March 25, 2016 at 9:21 pm

      You are wrong. Believe it or not some people just want to help. The US doctors have no reason to accrue debt they have to write off. They know she is in hello in nigeria. Imagine that we can even have a debate on this type of nonsensical issue ???????!!!!!!!

    • Oyinda March 25, 2016 at 10:08 pm

      While I agree that there may be more to this story that what we currently know I vehemently disagree with your assertion that since ‘madam prof’ has been sponsoring the investigations, therefore the information collected belongs to her. This is not a discussion about intellectual property or trademarks or property rights for that matter. This is about the health record of another human being. It’s like saying that because your parent or husband pays for your treatment, you have no right to your own medical records. To be clear the totality of medical records that these children have accrued in this hospital in the last 9 months go beyond just the MRI and CT scans. They include even the most minute assessments such as how much they are eating, if those things are deemed necessary by those that have been giving them care to know. These are things that are included as part of the patient care records. Obviously given these patients’ condition a simple MRI or CT scan would not be enough to know if they are fit for transfer to another hospital not to mention foreign travel. Any doctor that wants to take up the case needs the totality of the case history and as I mentioned before this is not some trade secret or secret recipe. This is the practice of medicine, people’s lives are at stake (it is not a matter of fame and fortune) and it should be treated as such. When the patient or their legal guardians no longer have confidence in your ability as a medical professional to treat them, then by all means allow them to go seek a second, third or more opinions if they wish and if you are right then you have nothing to be concerned about.

      I am not one to vilify Nigerian doctors because they are trying to do their best with what they have. However, after my experience and those of close family members with the Nigerian health care system I do not blame these parents for seeking medical care abroad. While the average Nigerian doctor may be very intelligent, they just do not have the equipment (and in the case of many completely home trained doctors, the training and exposure) to support their craft at a level obtainable in the west plain and simple. They are left to work on trial and error in many instances because they do not have access to the lab tests and facilities that we have in the west that actually give faster and more accurate diagnosis. This is why the smart ones look for opportunities to get more training abroad and then we pray for them to come back to Nigeria after their training. My father spent a whole year trying to get diagnosed for his condition but could not until he decided to seek medical care abroad. After several tests and as he was about to return home still without a definitive diagnosis they decided to rerun one of the scans they had initially deemed was unnecessary since he had already done them twice in Nigeria before coming. Well it turns out that test results were just plain wrong and for his diagnosis the time lost was a big deal. This also wasn’t his first bad experience either.
      The healthcare system here isn’t perfect either. In any system you need to be an advocate for yourself or find someone that understands the care you are getting to advocate for you. I’ve had to do that several times for my parents and find friends that may be working in those hospitals as well to to check in on them when they can to make sure they were not getting mistreated which can also happen here too. The difference is that here if you can prove there was malpractice, you can successfully sue, so the doctors are more careful. I am yet to meet a doctor here that got offended that I wanted to seek a second opinion or transfer the health care needs for myself or a family member (teaching hospital or not). If anything they are more likely to encourage you to do that while also encouraging you to give them whatever feedback you may get from the other place after your visit. Chances are if the results are the same, you’ll stick with your current health care professional anyway.

      By the way your suggestion that she self-discharges without the complete records is incredibly insensitive. Again I reiterate: THESE ARE NOT TRADE SECRETS. As a fellow commenter mentioned above, no one is asking them what method/procedure they are going to use to perform the surgery. In any case if this method is so unique doctor should be famous for it by now as she should have published it in reputable medical journals and be winning medical accolades worldwide and be known as the inventor of said method.

      Also, please if I’m ignorant on Nigerian law about medical records someone should please enlighten me as I realize that I may be using western standards. I find the idea that because someone pays for my health care they now own my medical records quite disturbing. If this is the case then that really really needs to change.

  • T March 25, 2016 at 9:45 am

    @Onnari’s friend…whether the parents can give them better living conditions?please why are we even asking that question?The parents want THEIR babies released! The parents of the babies say they don’t want that hospital handling their babies’ operation…whether the prof in question had done a million similar operations successfully in the past is irrelevant here. The parents have a choice,and they’ve made it.Everyone should respect that abeg.

  • i cant shout!! March 25, 2016 at 10:38 am

    Bella post my comment joor!

  • Suri March 25, 2016 at 11:43 am

    #1 We all know what Nigerian hospitals are capable of. Or not capable of lol ☺️
    #2 The hospital has no right to hold someone’s babies ahahn. If it was Sade Okoya or Caroline Danjuma’s child, TELL ME they would hold her hostage. Typical Nigerians and the vicious curl of mistreating anyone they feel is beneath them
    #3 Equipped doctors or not, please be honest with yourself: if you were in such a situation and a rich family was offering to send your kids abroad for medical treatment, tell me you would refuse it. Coming guys.
    #5 All the defenses here were culled from SDK blog, where it seems the doctors of the hospital and their family were naming and defending the UNTH Doctor, even though SDK herself didn’t mention the doctors name. Nice try

  • still cant shout March 25, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    It’s just like you come to my buka and order food but it turns out you don’t like it…of course you are free to pay for the plate you have tasted from and walk away. Nobody can fault you on that. However you cannot force me to list out what and what I put in my stew so that you can now add whatever you think was the missing link to make it the stew that you want. Caroline said the hospital is refusing to cooperate. To cooperate or not is entirely the doctors perrogative. He has no right to hold back a patient nor the patients records which the patient has duly paid for . But its not by force to answer oyibo doctor’s call. Like I said this is unnecessary media war. No one put a chain on the lady nor her kids. I feel this Caro lady just wants to attract attention to herself. My major concern is for the lady and her children. Let them make the choice that will be better for the children in the long long run. This new style of “send it to the blogs” intimidation in handling issues may just backfire on us as a country..smh

    • Marian March 25, 2016 at 2:54 pm

      Umm, nope. Not even close. If medicine was like your buka so many people for don die. They are not asking them for their secret’s not even like that. They just need to see the scans, lab results and assessments. They are not asking for what technique they will be using to operate.

  • Marian March 25, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    I’ve had patients who have gone to 5 different hospitals to get a consult before deciding on a surgery. If we need any info. I don’t need to call anyone unless they don’t have a fax machine. I just have to fill out a paper and have the patient sign it. It’s a patients right. You can get a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, opinion. Let them send them to Yankee o. It’s gonna be more than one surgery for them. They can’t be raising money every time. I know there is a way they can let the kids stay in Yankee for all of their medical treatments. Don’t quote me, but I’m pretty sure it will be for free. I know a lot of people that have been blessed through the generosity of hospitals in Yankee.

    I personally know a kid who was given a death sentence in naija due to a congenital issue. They brought her here and she’s gone through 7 different surgeries at one of the best hospitals here at no cost to her mom who is not even a citizen or green card holder. So no, it’s not about money for these hospitals.

    What hospital in naija will do 4 open heart surgery at no cost to the parent? The country is even paying their bills sef. This one though the mama get green card that’s why she gets the perks of having her bills paid.

    That’s one thing I love about Yankee. I have taken care of homeless people who have spent more than a month in the ICU, what address will they send the bill to? We treat first and ask questions about money later.

    Unfortunately the middle class suffers for this generosity.

  • Niyoola March 25, 2016 at 3:16 pm

    Okay, we’ve heard that the doctor can separate the twins, but can she do all thats required for them to live a relatively normal/stable life?

    They need lots of reconstructive surgeries, and plastic surgery. Can the doctor do that?
    Does the hospital have top-notch state of art pediatric equipment?
    What happens if doctors, nurses or scientists o on strike after the surgery?

    Please, whatever it is, the mother obviously kknows what she wants for her kids. She has also found someone to sponsor them to USA. Let them go abeg

    • Niyoola March 25, 2016 at 5:22 pm

      i also woner why the hospital is doing a fundraiser, not in the twins/their mum’s account :s

  • Nik March 25, 2016 at 3:31 pm

    All of you saying people abscond or leave without medical authorization, you seem to forget the logistics. This is two babies, not one. this is conjoined babies not one. how easy do you think she will find it to run away. She is already known in that hospital for her case alone. Do you think if you were in her shoes, it would be easy for you to run away?
    and when we are done running away and finding our way to another medical facility, they

    will still need medical records whether you like it or not. If the hospital has refused to release it now, what makes you think they will release it after patient absconds?

    and if it was successful for you to get medical records, you think its a good sign seeing the doctor sign your medical records with “discharged or left hospital against doctor’s wish”?

    oh well, God help everyone involved. This is a sensitive case

  • Ola March 26, 2016 at 11:43 am

    To be truthful I don’t know why this parents are still bending on the fact that UTh or whatever they are called should release these results. Can’t scans be done else where, I think they should settle the bills and look for a good hospital to conduct these tests and send abroad. No hospital in this country can give those girls genitals , remember countries like USA are the fathers of transgender. So please get the scan done else where like seriously it’s been 4 months.

  • No longer shouting.. March 27, 2016 at 1:48 am

    Ok i agree that my analogy doesnt quite illustrate the point i was trying to make….
    All i’m saying is that the doctor is not always the evil one. In this country you will just be killing yourself on top of the matter of a patient,even donate your own blood and add and one uncle from ”abroad” will just call relatives and tell them to give you the phone and starts yelling how you are mismanaging his brother. The patient will never tell the brother that he (the patient) may even be the one holding up his treatment. Sometimes we are even asked to write referals to spiritual houses and once the patient is not getting what he wants he always has the media to back him up. From what i read UNTH had set up a board concerned about the management of those children since february which the Prof is just a part of. Imagine her surprise when a certain madam calls her up on the phone to hand over CT scan and starts rolling out media threats. I’m happy all has been resolved anyways. I look forward to the day real medical litigation will be done in this country. It will even be better for the doctor. That way we will stick to our boundaries in patient management and save ourselves all of this wahala..

  • No longer shouting.. March 27, 2016 at 1:57 am

    Ok i agree that my analogy doesnt quite illustrate the point i was trying to make….
    All i’m saying is that the doctor is not always the evil one. In this country you will just be killing yourself on top of the matter of a patient,even donate your own blood and add and one uncle from ”abroad” will just call relatives and tell them to give you the phone and starts yelling how you are mismanaging his brother. The patient will never tell the brother that he (the patient) may even be the one holding up his treatment. Sometimes we are even asked to write referals to spiritual houses and once the patient is not getting what he wants he always has the media to back him up. Manner of approach is very important. From what i read UNTH had set up a board concerned about the management of those children since february which the Prof is just a part of. Imagine her surprise when a certain madam calls her up on the phone to hand over CT scan and starts rolling out media threats. I’m happy all has been resolved anyways. I look forward to the day real medical litigation will be done in this country. It will even be better for the doctor. That way we will stick to our boundaries in patient management and save ourselves all of this wahala..

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