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Caitlyn Jenner has a Message for African Transgenders after Meeting Nigerian Gay Rights Activist Bisi Alimi

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Transgender Caitlyn Jenner and Nigerian gay rights activist Bisi Alimi had a run-in during the Aspen Ideas Festival 2016 where Bisi Alimi was a speaker.

Bisi used the opportunity to get Caitlyn’s views on the way transgenders are treated in a short clip he posted on his Instagram page.

Happy to have met the activist, Caitlyn also took to her page to gush about Bisi Alimi.

I met Bisi Alimi this weekend. I love his fearless passion for the #LGBT community and Africa!! He has opened my eyes to the enormous problems that exist. A little bit about Bisi – He is the founder and director of the Bisi Alimi Foundation, which advocates for sexual and gender minorities in Nigeria. He also consults for the World Bank on the economic impact of homophobia and serves on its Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity task force. Alimi was a 2014 New Voices fellow at the Aspen Institute and was listed as the 19th most important LGBT person in the United Kingdom in 2015 and No. 77 on the 2014 World Pride Power List. His TEDx talk, “There should never be another Ibrahim,” is considered one of the 14 most inspiring queer TED talks of all time.

55 Comments

  1. Author Unknown

    June 25, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    Hey girls

    • Damilola

      June 26, 2016 at 3:39 pm

      So, Bruce Jenner is the voice for all gay
      people now? He could care less about Nigerians. But Bisi Alimi will do anything for attention. No matter what or who he brings to talk will not change people’s opinion/belief.
      Bruce looks miserable and unhappy. I won’t be surprised if suicide is his future. People make decisions they are unhappy about all the time no matter how they pretend to make it ok.
      One I find absurd is how far gays go to impose their lifestyle on you. Trying to convince another person wrong is right. It’s like a prostitute, liar going extra miles to convince you to accept them for their choices.

    • Author Unknown

      June 26, 2016 at 8:14 pm

      Sounds more like you’re the one who’s trying to impose your lifestyle. Why do you sound so frustrated Damilola? I’m sure it has nothing to do with the gays you’ve chosen to take it out on.

    • The Word will never change

      June 26, 2016 at 6:07 pm

      Romans 1:
      26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural,

      27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.

    • Author Unknown

      June 26, 2016 at 9:00 pm

      So says the man that wrote that verse. I’ll stop there.

  2. Beard gang

    June 25, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    all me i know is homosexual couples should NOT be allowed to adopt children since they are openly against how they come to be.

    • ATL's finest

      June 26, 2016 at 3:19 am

      ???????lmao! Happy Gay PRIDE/LGBT

    • bruno

      June 26, 2016 at 6:22 am

      @beardgang

      okay so pls tell us whats going to happened to those orphans in the orphanages. cause nobody is going to adopt them. or are u going to adopt them?

      some of u, the way u talk. so inconsiderate and so ignorant. go and research how many orphans get adopted in nigeria every year.

      or growing up in an orphange is better than living in a home with two dads or two mums?

    • Susie

      June 26, 2016 at 7:20 am

      So the poor children in the orphanages who are not being adopted should be left to rot rather than being taken good care of by gay couples who love them? Very few straight couples adopt because most people want their ‘own children’. Is it not good news then that someone wants to take care of kids who often were abandoned, deserted or maltreated by a straight person & that’s how they ended up in the orphanage? I have worked in an orphanage & seen the hardships these kids go through & I know only a very wicked person would want a child to remain under such circumstances rather than being taken into a home. Don’t allow the hatred & spite you have towards gay people to cloud your thinking.

  3. Amiira

    June 25, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    But Bruce Jenner does not even – men (mayve even women)! Heard he still has his willy for crap sake. He ain’t no gay, he is a fraud!

  4. Evaristus udeani

    June 26, 2016 at 12:13 am

    Bisi Alimi, I hope you know what the Nigerian law says about homosexuality LGBT.
    Be warned that you can do what you want abroad and don’t try it Nigeria or be prepared to face the maximum consequences of your action by the law.

  5. TrueTalk

    June 26, 2016 at 12:13 am

    Show me your womb, ovaries and eggs and I will show you a woman! Stop insulting womanhood by claiming artificial facial reconstruction qualifies you.

    • Mannie

      June 26, 2016 at 7:57 am

      Being a woman is not only a circumstance of one’s birth. It’s also a social construct where one defines herself as such. When a trans woman identifies herself as a woman, she never takes away the cis-gender woman’s right to have ovaries e.t.c. She is basically saying that she does not identify herself as possessing any of the masculine stereotypes society ascribes to her for being assigned to as a man when she was born. BTW, if you are implying some sort of residual male privilege trans women enjoy, That is absolute BS.

    • Lol

      June 26, 2016 at 6:49 pm

      I don’t know if you see how silly your comment sounds. Gender is a social construct? Clap for yourself. There are 2 genders and they have 2 different types of private parts. That’s how you distinguish. If you get the parts in an artificial manner it doesn’t change your sex. It doesn’t change the fact that you have XX or XY chromosomes either.

    • Nini

      June 26, 2016 at 7:50 pm

      But one can reject ‘masculine stereotypes’ without claiming to belong to another gender altogether. Other men have done so without becoming trans women. Caitlyn is not just rejecting masculine stereotypes but painstakingly putting on female characteristics, including taking hormones and having extreme surgical procedures in order to change organs, bone structure and physiological appearance to that of a female. Caitlyn also now wants to date men rather than women, which amounts to a change of sexuality, after being involved with and married to several women, admittedly enjoying sex with them (by the way, that is one of several ‘masculine stereotypes’ that Caitlyn admits to having enjoyed as Bruce) and having many children. So among advocates of homosexuality, there are now conflicting claims: on the one hand, they were biologically ‘born this way’ with their hardwired homosexuality, but now on the other hand, ‘human sexuality is a continuum’ or a socially constructed spectrum. Those two things cannot be simultaneously true.
      While I have sympathy for the unimaginably deep inner turmoil and confusion that trans people must go through as a result of their deep sense of dislocation in their bodies, I don’t believe that Caitlyn’s path is the only solution. Some trans advocates are now trying to go further by asking parents not to assign gender to babies irrespective of their genitalia, which will only result in more confused kids. Or you see some parents now changing their children’s gender at a very early age, because of some observed traits that may very well still change as the children develop. These to me are signs of deep confusion (and dysfunction) and people trying to manipulate innate biological characteristics to suit their desires and feelings. It’s not just about rejecting social stereotypes.

    • Mannie

      June 26, 2016 at 9:11 pm

      To Lol, gender is not binary, but in fact it is a continuum. FYI, there are people who also choose to be defined beyond the binary, preferring to be referred to as ‘they/them’ as oppressed to he/she, for instance. And it is beautiful that they choose to break beyond gender norms in the way that best define how they perceive themselves.

      Nini, Caitlyn’s transition did not happen overnight, she mentioned that she had been battling with her identity all her life, giving various examples where she rebelled against gender norms in the past. To insinuate that her ‘enjoyment’ of hetero-sex nullifies her gender identification is the same claptrap 2nd-gen feminists were on about in the 70s, which has no place in today’s understanding of sex, sexual identity, sexual orientation and gender. In fact, being transgender is independent of one’s sexual orientation.

    • eyong

      June 27, 2016 at 1:40 am

      Lmao, @ lol bros, go to school, Gender and sex are two different things. Gender- Social construct. Sex- Biological physiology,

    • Jade edo babe

      June 27, 2016 at 6:23 am

      U don confuse yaself finish. Gender na biological period. The sex in which you came in from your mother’s womb js the real deal. Any other things na disorder. It’s you came in as African and now you believe you are Asian. Which kin rubbish is that. Bruce na man, he’ll forever be one no mata what surgeries he has

    • Deedara

      June 27, 2016 at 4:34 pm

      @Mannie, I don’t think Nini’s point is that sexual orientation is the same as gender, but rather that changing your gender is not the only way for you to reject gender-based stereotypes. I also agree with her that the theories of gay advocates around sexual orientation are contradictory. And is it really a coincidence that Caitlyn has decided to change sexual orientation right after changing gender? I see it as a sign of multiple dysfunctions around his/her gender identity as well as his/her sexual orientation. Anyway, you’re entitled to find the idea of changing your inborn gender and defining it any way you choose ‘beautiful’… I disagree.

  6. babs

    June 26, 2016 at 12:38 am

    This is rubbish from the highest order….oriburuku indeed

  7. ElessarisElendil

    June 26, 2016 at 1:15 am

    A whole lot of ado about nothing. The existing law in its own way protects both parties, it satisfies the many many many Nigerians who are disgusted by the act while protecting homosexuals by encouraging discretion. It stays win-win as long the status-quo is maintained.

    We could leave it at that or we could overburden Nigeria’s security apparatus and create more societal tension. I mean even Western societies aren’t currently stable.

    As for the “Consenting adult argument”. Laws aren’t made based on hurt, were that the case, prostitution, personal drug use and polygamy would be legal in all societies. Laws are often made against acts societies feel threaten its very fabric and sometimes simply against the “other”. Little acts of suppression that act to stabilise society. Seeing as I’m not an anarchist, the sportsman formerly known as Bruce abeg free us!!

    We don’t get all we want, life being cruel and all, if you can’t be discrete, emigrate.

    • bruno

      June 26, 2016 at 6:10 am

      look at u trying to justify ur bigotry. speaking from two sides of ur mouth like a typical nigerian hypocrite. u are an under cover homophobe. reading ur comment, my eyes just kept getting bigger and bigger from the stupidity u were spilling.

      ” We don’t get all we want, life being cruel and
      all, if you can’t be discrete, emigrate.”

      just look at u. “we dont get all we want” LOL. are u kidding me. “emigrate” who are u to tell a nigerian citizen to get out of their own country?

      ” Little acts of suppression that act to
      stabilise society.”

      jesu.see how some is thinking? u are justifing oppression and murder of innocent people. this is how nazis thinks. someone like u, if u become a president of a country, u will gas people who are different from.

      ” Laws are often
      made against acts societies feel threaten its
      very fabric and sometimes simply against the
      “other”.

      I have been asking this question on bellanaija. pls what are u threatened by? what is so threatening about gay people? what are u afraid of?pls tell us

      ” The existing
      law in its own way protects both parties”

      did u see the gay guy that way beaten to death in nigeria. the people who murdered him went to his facebook page to brag about killing him. so pls explain to is how the anti gay protects both parties. and pls protects both parties from what exactly? what do u need protection from. is it not u heterosexuals that rape kids everyday. taking little girls from their parents and forcing them into marriage and getting them pregnant.

      ur comment is the most stupid thing I have ever read ever? and im sure in ur mind u will think u are intelligent. chai nigeria is truly finished. educated illiterates every.

    • Timi

      June 26, 2016 at 11:57 am

      Bruno, re: calling “jesu” in your comment. You may not believe in Jesus but some of us do and revere His Name. Argue all you want but please do not disrespect the name of Jesus. Thank you.

    • Lolz

      June 26, 2016 at 3:01 pm

      @ Timi et al
      So you worship a man who spent 3 years with 12 other men and a prostitute that nobody -, yet you don’t support gay rights?
      Human rights supercede religious ideology.

    • Bodunade

      June 26, 2016 at 6:32 pm

      Mr Bruno, it seems you feel strongly about this issue but you can critique opinions or pass yours across without resorting to personal attacks… Thank you.

    • Moni

      June 26, 2016 at 7:41 pm

      I don’t know the problem people have with gays. What’s your business with who a man or woman has sex with? How does it affect your life?

  8. Pete

    June 26, 2016 at 7:49 am

    Speaking of transportation issues as it affects Nigerians. Google sex and lagos city

  9. nonsenses

    June 26, 2016 at 8:47 am

    Bruno the orphans don’t deserve odd parents as two dads. They deserve proper parents man and a woman. Shikena

    • bruno

      June 26, 2016 at 10:24 am

      Scientific research consistently shows that gay
      and lesbian parents are as fit and capable as
      heterosexual parents, and their children are as
      psychologically healthy and well-adjusted as
      those reared by heterosexual parents.

      unlike nigerians, oyinbo people dont joke with children. if gay people were not capable of raising kids they will never allow two men to adopt a child.

      Gay parents “tend to be more motivated, more
      committed than heterosexual parents on average,
      because they chose to be parents,” said Abbie
      Goldberg, a psychologist at Clark University in
      Massachusetts who researches gay and lesbian
      parenting . Gays and lesbians rarely become
      parents by accident, compared with an almost 50
      percent accidental pregnancy rate among
      heterosexuals, Goldberg said.

      I always bring credible scientific research and studies with my arguments while many of u bring sentiment, superstition, emotion and religion to ur arguments.

    • "changing moniker"

      June 27, 2016 at 4:03 pm

      Maybe you should devote less time to the physical (man made ideologies, papers, research,etc), and spend some of that time in the spiritual (with God who actually knows all things).

    • Baseless

      June 26, 2016 at 10:26 am

      Wow. So being a heterosexual couple automatically makes you good parents? There are many great, well-behaved children who were raised by homosexual couples. And there are many criminals who were raised by a man and a woman. Does a child need”normal, socially acceptable parents” or does a child need “good parents?” Because sexual orientation has no bearing on your morality. Any idiot knows that so your argument is very baseless!

    • "changing moniker"

      June 27, 2016 at 4:07 pm

      Do you need to adopt a child to take care of them? Instead of adopting kids, why don’t the gay couples contribute to the orphanages? send them money, clothes, food, pay their school fees. that way you’re bettering the life of 10s of children instead of one child.
      Besides their way of life doesn’t enable them procreate, so why struggle to have a child under your roof?

  10. kratos

    June 26, 2016 at 10:18 am

    @bruno,
    i support the fact that GAY and LESBIANS should not be allowed to adopt babes because what they stand for does not support procreation. bruno i think you should focus on how gay should get themselves pregnant, you can start that if you have not considered that

    sodom and gomorrah punishment will be small compared to what awaits those that practice these abominable act!!!!

  11. Lynette

    June 26, 2016 at 11:45 am

    I don’t understand some people oh. You won’t adopt an orphan cos you claim you want your own kids. I’m not even sure when you last visited an orphanage- that is if you have even stepped in one before. Someone is going to give these children a home, you want to prevent it just because you don’t like gay people. So those kids should just remain in the orphanage? Is having a loving home not better than being there?

    Even if being gay is wrong, are straight people perfect? Don’t they cheat, lie, insult etc and do all kinds of wrong stuff in front of their kids? Or just because someone is attracted to the same sex they’re useless parents? It will surprise you the number of gays & lesbians even in Nigeria who have raised kids. Some of you think everyone in your family is straight lol. Get off your high horses

  12. A

    June 26, 2016 at 12:38 pm

    This is where Nigerians will remember that they are conservative Christians in quote?
    Meanwhile people are fornicating, committing adultery, enabling their husband to commit adultery, raping little children, bringing little girls from the village, shaving her bald and turning her into an unpaid slave. But it’s gay people that they will all remember their God and their morals. that’s why Nigeria is in shambles

    • Anonymous

      June 26, 2016 at 12:49 pm

      Thanks you a million times. Even the church that is called to love (supposed to be a laundry room) amazes me on its stance.

    • Amy

      June 26, 2016 at 1:58 pm

      That still doesn’t change the fact that Homosexuality is a sin forbidden by the Bible. Let’s stop justifying nonsense abeg, so because people lie and steal (which are sins notwithstanding), then we shouldn’t frown at homosexuality. Read Romans chapter 1 when you can.

    • FasholasLover

      June 26, 2016 at 5:04 pm

      I am not pro two adults of the same sex loving each other neither do l Hv anything against it either. I am just indifferent. I don’t know what that makes me.

      However, the hypocrisy that enable people hide under the cloak of religion is mind boggling. How do you commit all the atrocities mentioned by @A especially bringing a child from the hinterlands to be your slave. You shave off her hair, dress her in dresses ten times above her size. Buy her rubber sandals and on Sunday, On Sunday, dress yourself and your children gorgeously except for the other child while you all go to church. When you return, you come on BN and call God’s name at the drop of a hat meanwhile, your heart is dark. What does that make you? The scion of the devil l think. The LGBT community should be the least of our worries in Nigeria.

      I think it’s about time we let people live as they desire so long as it is not hurting anyone. By this l mean consenting ADULTS. My views were different some years ago l hope we all become more tolerant of other people’s preferences.

  13. Ariere

    June 26, 2016 at 2:43 pm

    Popular science has proven that homosexual behavior is, in fact, quite natural. It’s seen in a wide range of animals, including our closest primate cousins, chimpanzees. It’s also seen in reptile and birds.

    Something that is so widespread across the animal kingdom certainly meets any useful definition of “natural.”

    Ask any gay person about how long they tried NOT to be gay before accepting who they were. It’s not an easy thing, in our current culture, to be a gay person. Most people fight pretty hard against it. I’d say with few exceptions we all grow up expecting to be straight, and then that just doesn’t pan out for some of us. That can feel frightening and disappointing.

    Being gay is not something people put on like a fashionable tie or statement earrings. It’s something you simply can’t get away from.

    If ur gonna blame something for Homosexuality, then blame Natural Selection and Evolution. Evolution has no pattern, no goal, no wants and no ideas. Evolution is just the description of a process that happens. It answers nor explain itself to Nothing. Nd interestingly, Evolution affects the Species and not the individual.

    Don’t blame the people who have bn selected for this trait. Straight people can’t alter their sexuality any more than Gay people can. So why ask so much of them? Why be unfair on them, no something they didn’t ask for, that was written into the deepest recess of their psychology? My people, Gays Exist amongst us, always have, always will. I dare say, at least one family member of yours is Gay.

    Evolution and Psychology has no plans in getting rid of it, So therefore, No Government Law or Homophobe has any hope of wishing it away.

    • Moni

      June 26, 2016 at 7:46 pm

      Thank you!!! One can’t ignore the fact that homophobia is fueled by religion. Homosexuality is natural

    • Mr. Egghead

      June 26, 2016 at 8:17 pm

      Homosexual behaviour is not “quite natural.”
      Matter of fact is that popular science is still unraveling the riddle of homosexuality, Genes promoting homosexuality have not been elucidated. Also, the concordance rate of homosexuality among monozygotic twins is much lower than any other inherited condition, meaning that, other factors( possibly environmental) could be at play.
      This is just off the top of my head back from when I tried to do a little research.

  14. chidinma

    June 26, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    being gay is not a sin, it is an abomination

  15. Elle

    June 26, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    Write all the epistles and research findings you want, homosexuality is an ABERRATION and we refuse to accept it as a normal lifestyle in Africa.

  16. Kkay

    June 26, 2016 at 6:05 pm

    ….and the world keeps getting darker by the day as the mind of man (humanity) slips farther into the abyss of depravity!
    The light shines in darkness but darkness comprehends it not.

    You think God made a ‘mistake’ in creating you as male or female gender from conception to birth. You decided in your ‘INFINITE FOOLISHNESS’ to dispute the WISDOM of God and transgender, become gay or Lesbian, WHY DO YOU YET CHOOSE TO BECOME ANY OF THE GENDERS OR ANYTHING CLOSE TO GOD’S CREATURE? Or ADOPT children?

    SINCE YOU ARE SO WISE….
    Why do you want to remain on earth or the universe God created?
    Why retain any likeness of God’s master plan?
    Why claim your ‘RIGHTS’ in the very place you believe you were created ‘WRONG’?

    Why not simply ‘DIFFUSE’ OUT of God’s creation, earth, universe including the galaxies INTO a place your ‘INFINITE FOOLISHNESS’ has created’

    For those who support this evil and those who sit on the fence, may your children, spouses, sisters or brothers not wake up one day and become transgender, gay or lesbian.
    Evil is evil….fornication, adultery, rape, incest. Don’t use religion to excuse any and shove Sodomy down our throats.
    May God have mercy on souls that have gone astray.
    …..As was in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah so shall it be upon this generation!

  17. Na wa

    June 26, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    So if research comes out tomorrow that bestiality is “natural”, then it is okay afterall it is a natural instinct for the persons involved. Chineke mee. The media has really done a good job!! This is just the beginning, soon will be bestiality and then paedophilia, then maybe it will be plants and green trees they will face then.

    • Ariere

      June 26, 2016 at 7:20 pm

      I would have taken you more seriously if u gave intelligent argument. Anyway, Bestiality and Peadophila will never and should never be used in the same breathe with Homosexuality. They re just not the same thing or in the same category.

      Reason are numerous buT I will just give only one basic reason: A child or an animal cannot consent to sexual or romantic contact with anyone or humans Respectively. A child Less than the age of 10 and a typical domestic animal has about the same mental abilities. Consenting can only be exercised by a person during and after puberty when their sexual awareness And desire emerges. Homosexuality involves consenting partners.

      It’s insulting and ignorant to group LGBTs with Pedophiles and Animal Cruelty perpetrators.

      Lets exercise logic in our arguments And let’s not be blinded by our emotions and dogmas.

    • "changing moniker"

      June 27, 2016 at 3:59 pm

      Paedophilia, Bestiality, Homosexuality are aberrations , hence they are in the same category.
      Dey dere dey talk about research, let pant wear you.

  18. mee

    June 26, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    Its so irritating to hear people try to give excuses for homosexual behaviors. How did we become so depraved? This is what happens when you allow unhealthy words into your mind rather than staying with God’s word.. God created males and females and the Bible specifically said that A man shall leave his father and mother and shall cleave to his wife. You were born because your parents- male and female came together. Don’t give the devil a foothold in your life. Homosexual desires are not natural. It’s the same desire that rapists and pedophiles have. Don,t tell me they were born like that. As children we all had funny thoughts in our head but as time went on, we were taught to know what was right and what wasn’t. The BIble has made us to understand that the devils plan is to work on our mind to make us think abnormally hence, we are not ignorant of his schemes. He has been able to make people think that they cant help but become gay and that’s a lie from the pit of hell. Renew your mind with God’s word and you will understand that you have the power over all unnatural desires. I do not condemn anyone who is gay because He who created them love them dearly. Sweetheart, you can overcome that homosexual desire through God’s word. That’s the manual for your life.

    • "changing moniker"

      June 27, 2016 at 4:01 pm

      your comment is the best.
      Instead of focusing on man made research that does nothing to help your confusion, why not read the bible, The book written by the Holyspirit (who dwells in the spirit and knows more than we can ever know).

  19. me

    June 26, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    Please go for spiritual cleansing and fasting if you are gay or a lesbian. Its an evil spirit that is very difficult to overcome . May God help you all to over come such evil. Tuehhh!!!

  20. aj

    June 27, 2016 at 2:14 am

    look at Bisi smiling like a baby monkey that was just given its first banana…loool

  21. 3ples

    June 27, 2016 at 4:18 pm

    Matt 7:1-5

  22. tunmi

    June 27, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    Wasn’t there a post on teaching critical thinking? And then we have this ^^ see all above.

  23. Anonymous

    June 27, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    Ermm so is lying. “… I hate liars” is in your bible. Do you lie?

  24. queenbee

    June 28, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    This is not about bible or emotion. This is about the bigger picture and how the west is now painting a society that says everything goes. Why do Rachel dolzeal get attacked for wanting to be a black woman and going ahead to live a life as a black woman. She felt black and she wasn’t hurting anyone so why is she a baddie. If anything she was even helping the black community. Feelings don’t make anything justifiable. There is a lot of flaw in the human makeup. All u have to do is Google port or sex practices to see the vast majority of strange practices that humans will indulge in if given the opportunity. Sex us a very fluid and gray area. It is not entirely a physical thing. It is very much driven from the mental. And the mental is fragile. I love my gay friends and would never want to see them getting attacked or humiliated buy I also thoroughly believe it stems from a misbalance in the human mental and makeup. And giving it a media movement is wrong. It is something that needs to be studied in far more detail. A lot of transcended people have gone through Sex changes and then regretted it. It although of course there are those that also get a sense of new life and satisfaction. I think the science is still very unclear . Just as paedophile have a misbalance in the brain that causes them to feel sexual excitement from underage and youngbeings I believe LGBT is a mental confusion. And because doctors haven’t been successful at coming to ant real resolution the law has had to cave to satisfy human rights rs. The only difference between paedophilia and LGBT state of Sex attraction is that onewill often been non consensual therefore made a crime. But they are both the result of human confusion. The problem is we now live in a world that says if you feel it it must be right. It gives everything a name and a movement therefore it becomes the status quo. On the subject of adoption therese is not yet a clearcut understanding of the effect on children and society in the long term. So those who are giving stats need to sit the hell down. Africans are poor and orphaned does that mean they should all be given to the next Angelina jolie! Giving orphans away to whoever will have them is not a solution to developing a child. Why not find ways to make orphanages more loving more homely more constructive for the babies. Saying let’s give them away because gays wathe to show love is ridiculous. Most gay men will tell you how they love their mothers and growing without a mothers love would be unimaginable for them. Gay adoption isn’t just about orphans it’s about creating the route for babies born into an unnatural environment. From a surrogate to a 2 daddy or 2 mummy home. I simply don’t believe in this new politics devised Ince again by the white man because a lot of gay people are in incredibly powerful positions. I don’t believe this is going to lead to a better future for human race in the long term. But Africans must always follow in case we loose our funding from IMF

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