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Actress Clarion Chukwurah joins New Hubby as a Jehovah’s Witness

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Veteran actress Clarion Chukwurah got married back in April to Anthony Boyd in a small and intimate outdoors ceremony.

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The actress has started her journey to be baptized and join the evangelical ministry of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Clarion Chukwurah

She shared a photo of herself and her husband on her Facebook page after their meeting in their church and captioned it “An Instructive Meeting Sunday at the Kingdom Hall towards Baptism and Evangelization Ministry as Jehovah’s Witnesses.”

Jehovah’s Witnesses is a millenarian restorationist Christian denomination with nontrinitarian beliefs distinct from mainstream Christianity.

Jehovah’s Witnesses are best known for their door-to-door preaching, distributing literature such as The Watchtower and Awake!, and refusing military service and blood transfusions. They reject “Trinitarianism”, immortality of the soul, and hell-fire, which they consider to be unscriptural doctrines.

They also do not observe Christmas, Easter, birthdays or other holidays and customs they consider to have pagan origins incompatible with Christianity.

97 Comments

  1. FasholasLover

    July 13, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    It is well. Love works in mysterious ways after all. Like play, like play e be like say this union na original o. One of my fav’ actors.

  2. Audrey

    July 13, 2016 at 2:08 pm

    kwaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

  3. fan

    July 13, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    Love don’t care.Let this be her last bus stop for marriage.

    • Candid

      July 13, 2016 at 7:09 pm

      Is it within her legitimate right to pursue happiness, comfort and companionship with any man and in any environment of her choice?

  4. Oma

    July 13, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    She’s free to worship God with any congregation of her choice but did you see the length of that dress? Beautiful though but for that denomination and they allowed it?……Seems Change is Everywhere

    • Jesus is not God

      July 13, 2016 at 2:53 pm

      Hello Oma,

      There are no hard and fast rules regarding dress and grooming as a Jehovah’s witness.
      It’s a conscientious matter. The majority of female members dress a lot better. I.e skirts below the knees

    • tammy

      July 13, 2016 at 2:58 pm

      They are in the US, that’s why she is wearing an outfit that short… I don’t think/hope she’d do this in Nigeria

    • Bee

      July 14, 2016 at 2:14 pm

      i used to think same till i met my boss, she is a jehova wiitness but her skirts are never below her kneee, her jeans will show all the hooks and corners of her behind. And she is a grandma for that matter. So i dont understand this Jehova Witness thingy

    • Arabella

      July 13, 2016 at 3:29 pm

      Calm down. She is not yet a Jehovah’s Witness. It’s obvious she just attended a meeting in their kingdom hall. This i know because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not use term “Evangelization Ministry” (not that there’s anything wrong with it)

      Jehovah’s Witnesses are encouraged to dress decently with soundness of mind. You can look at their magazines to get a clue as to how they dress.

      1
    • xxx

      July 13, 2016 at 9:55 pm

      U must be a Jehovah’s Witness

    • julian

      July 16, 2016 at 10:18 pm

      Errrrm soory pls, did u notice in her statement dat she is not yet a Jehovah’s witness buh she studying towards “baptism n evangelism” To get there, she has to work hard on her dressing cos without dat she will never make it to d preaching part.

  5. mercy

    July 13, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    Chai, dis one no be love oh, she Jst a despirado

  6. bruno

    July 13, 2016 at 3:21 pm

    changing ur faith for ur partner, that’s never a good idea at all. this will put a strain on her marriage watch and see.

    ” They also do not observe Christmas, Easter,
    birthdays or other holidays and customs they
    consider to have pagan origins incompatible with
    Christianity.”

    loool marriage is also a pagan practice incase u didnt know.

    • Jesus is not God

      July 13, 2016 at 4:21 pm

      Get familiar with the story of Adam & Eve..

    • na me get ma hand

      July 13, 2016 at 4:38 pm

      Well,I am not sure she met the husband as a Jehovah’s witness because witnesses only marry themselves,it is possible both of them started studying with Jehovah’s witnesses after their marriage.

    • James Taggart

      July 13, 2016 at 7:37 pm

      Actually God instituted the first marriage when he said about Adam and Eve, what God has yoked together let no man put apart.

    • Truth.

      July 14, 2016 at 10:51 am

      @James Taggart, where in the Holy Bible did God say “”ABOUT Adam and Eve, what God has yoked together let no man put apart””?

    • Boffah1

      July 17, 2016 at 9:17 am

      who originated marriage? Do you understand paganism?

  7. Nystyle

    July 13, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    I hope she knows with jw there is no more wearing all them short clothes,no make up or wigs, no false nails etc..don’t come here pretending to the man if u aint gonna comply with jw lifestyle.

    • KKK

      July 13, 2016 at 4:19 pm

      Actually, JWs have no cut and dry rules prohibiting the wearing of wigs, applying make-up and donning artificial nails. The guiding principle as regards grooming is to do so “with modesty and soundness of mind” (1 Timothy 2:9-10). With respect to the length of her dress, ‘soundness of mind’ will guide one to choose attractive clothing that is not sloppy or extreme. Sloppy or extreme are highly subjective qualifications taking into consideration the culture of one’s society.

    • Fifi

      July 13, 2016 at 5:01 pm

      You Lie, maybe the nija based one becos the William sisters are Jehovah Witnesses,same with Jacksons till they all followed their own paths, Prince as well was a member

    • xxx

      July 13, 2016 at 9:57 pm

      Hi,
      I just checked NWT. You must be a Jehovah’s Witness. Lol

    • Be Not Deceived.

      July 14, 2016 at 12:26 pm

      Quoting the book of Timothy and selective other Scripture as seen fit, and mixing in error and fallacy not found in Scripture is not the mark neither the fruit of a CHRISTIAN organisation nor of CHRISTIANITY. An organisation and religion which denies and opposes the Deity/Divinity of Jesus Christ is NOT Christianity. And organisation and religion which denies and opposes the Trinity of the Godhead, the Holy Trinity of God as clearly revealed and stated multiple times in God’s Word, is NOT Christianity. We don’t get to pick and choose from God. We don’t get to pick and choose of Him what we believe and throw in our own ideas, our own interpretation, our own concepts and beliefs, and throw out what we don’t want. We do NOT get to, thus, make ourselves into God and make of The Almighty God a make, model and brand of god of our own choosing, design and manufacture. We don’t get to make of our own selves and of our own thinking, idols, placing ourselves and our flawed and unsound and un-Scriptural man-made philosophies above the Almighty God and His Word. We don’t get to, like most do, about human, mortal celebrities, on the pages of this and other blogs, disbelieve what God says about Himself and pass our own judgments and comments about Him which are contrary to what He clearly states and has clearly revealed in His Word.

      ‘Jehovah’s Witnesses’ are NOT Christian. They are ANTI-Christ. Although many of them genuinely do not yet know this.

    • Jesus is not God

      July 13, 2016 at 4:20 pm

      Nope!!
      We DO wear makeup and wigs AND fix nails!
      The bible doesn’t condemn them. Get your facts straight please

    • ebby

      July 13, 2016 at 7:04 pm

      mistakenly liked this.. .The bible doesnt condemn them who told you and how will you know when your name already ” JESUS is not GOD ( JESUS IS THE SON AND THE WORD OF GOD, GOD THE FATHER,(GOD OVERALL) GOD THE SON(WORD OF GOD), GOD THE HOLYSPIRIT(SPIRIT OF GOD) !!) contradicts what you have written

    • na me get ma hand

      July 13, 2016 at 4:32 pm

      That’s not true,I am one of Jehovah’s witnesses,I fix my hair,I fix my nails,I make up,don’t say what you don’t know,to know more about Jehovah’s witnesses,visit jw.org

    • xxx

      July 13, 2016 at 9:58 pm

      Hi,
      Babe. Me too.

    • Someonecute

      July 13, 2016 at 4:57 pm

      Haha Nystyle, We are talking about JW here and not Deeper life, get your facts right please. I have them as friends and they wear make up and wigs.

    • pepey

      July 13, 2016 at 9:29 pm

      JW dress decently and modestly . They don’t forbid make up or wig or fixing of Nail.

    • J&J Techy

      July 13, 2016 at 10:26 pm

      Yes, it is true that JW do not fancy nor encourage external braiding at the expense of internal. They how do not dictate to their members what to put on. Make ups, use of wigs are not a taboo to them, since the Bible do not in laws or principle condem it.

  8. its_urgirlie

    July 13, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    Before nkor!!!

  9. lifeisbeautiful

    July 13, 2016 at 3:51 pm

    How unfortunate…..

    • Jesus is not God

      July 13, 2016 at 4:20 pm

      Far from it!
      Best decision ever!

    • ""I AM THE LORD, I change not.""

      July 14, 2016 at 11:03 am

      Information is free in our days, (praise God!) for anyone who doesn’t already know about Jehovah’s Witnesses organisation. Google/the internet is available. Please, don’t check only their website that they are advertising here. This religion is full of error and all kinds of beliefs, doctrines and practices not found in the Holy Bible. In addition, for all who don’t yet know these commonly known FACTS, here are some FALSE PROPHECIES AND PREDICTIONS by Jehovah’s Witnesses leaders and the organization across the years. The dates/years that the prophecies/predictions were published come first. Predictions (by date of publication) include:

      1877: Christ’s kingdom would hold full sway over the earth in 1914; the Jews, as a people, would be restored to God’s favor; the “saints” would be carried to heaven.

      1891: 1914 would be “the farthest limit of the rule of imperfect men.”

      1904: “World-wide anarchy” would follow the end of the Gentile Times in 1914.

      1916: World War I would terminate in Armageddon and the rapture of the “saints”.

      1917: In 1918, Christendom would go down as a system to oblivion and be succeeded by revolutionary governments. God would “destroy the churches wholesale and the church members by the millions.” Church members would “perish by the sword of war, revolution and anarchy.” The dead would lie unburied. In 1920 all earthly governments would disappear, with worldwide anarchy prevailing.

      1920: Messiah’s kingdom would be established in 1925 and bring worldwide peace. God would begin restoring the earth. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other faithful patriarchs would be resurrected to perfect human life and be made princes and rulers, the visible representatives of the New Order on earth. Those who showed themselves obedient to God would never die.

      1922: The anti-typical “jubilee” that would mark God’s intervention in earthly affairs would take place “probably the fall” of 1925.

      1924: God’s restoration of Earth would begin “shortly after” October 1, 1925. Jerusalem would be made the world’s capital. Resurrected “princes” such as Abel, Noah, Moses and John the Baptist would give instructions to their subjects around the world by radio, and airplanes would transport people to and from Jerusalem from all parts of the globe in just “a few hours”.

      1938: Armageddon was too close for marriage or child bearing.

      1941: There were only “months” remaining until Armageddon.

      1942: Armageddon was “immediately before us.”

      1961: Awake! magazine stated that the heavenly kingdom “will, within the twentieth century, cleanse the entire earth of wickedness.”

      1966: It would be 6000 years since man’s creation in the fall of 1975 and it would be “appropriate” for Christ’s thousand-year reign to begin at that time.[40] Time was “running out, no question about that.”[41] The “immediate future” was “certain to be filled with climactic events … within a few years at most”, the final parts of Bible prophecy relating to the “last days” would undergo fulfillment as Christ’s reign began.

      1967: The end-time period (beginning in 1914) was claimed to be so far advanced that the time remaining could “be compared, not just to the last day of a week, but rather, to the last part of that day”.

      1968: No one could say “with certainty” that the battle of Armageddon would begin in 1975, but time was “running out rapidly” with “earthshaking events” soon to take place.[43] In March 1968 there was a “short period of time left”, with “only about ninety months left before 6000 years of man’s existence on earth is completed”.

      1969: The existing world order would not last long enough for young people to grow old; the world system would end “in a few years.” Young Witnesses were told not to bother pursuing tertiary education for this reason.

      1971: The “battle in the day of Jehovah” was described as beginning “[s]hortly, within our twentieth century”.

      1974: There was just a “short time remaining before the wicked world’s end” and Witnesses were commended for selling their homes and property to “finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service.”

      1984: There were “many indications” that “the end” was closer than the end of the 20th century.

      1989: The Watchtower asserted that Christian missionary work begun in the first century would “be completed in our 20th century”.[49] When the magazine was republished in bound volumes, the phrase “in our 20th century” was replaced with the less specific “in our day”.

  10. Prince

    July 13, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    I no fit shout. No wahala. Madam Clarion, will your husband allow you to kiss another man in movies???

  11. Jesus Is God

    July 13, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    May God protect me from this fate IJN!!

    • Omodolapo

      July 13, 2016 at 9:41 pm

      Jesus is not God, please read and Assimilate the bible. It is your choice, you are not doing anybody any favour.

  12. bruno

    July 13, 2016 at 4:37 pm

    another Christian who thinks the bible is the history of the world. marriage and wearing of gold rings to signify u are married has been in practice by pagans long before ambrahamic religions came into existence. pls educate ur self. catholics adopted the practice from pagans so more pagans can convert to Christianity. go and read up on it.

    bellanaija pls fix ur reply button. ogini di this comment is for @jesus is not god.

  13. Ethio

    July 13, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    i like majority of what they preach, like that the dead should be buried with a funeral and not a party like our african ways insist, and a NO to infant baptism that’s cool too. but which one be ‘they dont support blood transfusion’ look at these ones oh! good luck Madame

  14. divora

    July 13, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    Well in my opinion dis woman got married for papers,so she can retire in d US….lol

    • Fifi

      July 13, 2016 at 5:03 pm

      Lol anything to get the blue kpali

    • Candid

      July 13, 2016 at 7:07 pm

      Before you devour her, is it within her legitimate right to pursue happiness, comfort and companionship with any man and in any environment of her choice?

  15. ebby

    July 13, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    Hmmmmm! From frying pan to fire.. hian! Heaven is real biko… and no i’m not judging…

  16. xxx

    July 13, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    When she studies up to the point where she is mature, she will let her advancement be made manifest even in areas of wearing longer skirt. Loool. Biko let her study.
    Greetings to all #JW’s in here

  17. Sylvia

    July 13, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    Ssta welcome to d real life serving Jehovah is d bst way of life welcm 2 Gods organization

  18. missnk

    July 13, 2016 at 11:52 pm

    lmaoo! People are trying to leave and she wants to join? Anyone who wants to join this reliigion, should first look into how they handle child abuse cases in their religion. Presently, there’s a fine for $4000/day (in San Diego) because they have refused to show courts documents to prove they don’t shield paedophiles.
    One will soon reply and claim its apostates spewing wicked things. smh

    • BijouxthisBijouxthat

      July 14, 2016 at 12:40 am

      Maybe you are trying to leave but for majority of us, this is the best organization to belong to on earth! It is a God’s spirit directed organization.
      We are not infallible but as the Psalmist said, the light keeps getting brighter….. What matters is staying true to the work Jesus commissioned all true Christians to do…
      As for Clarion, as has been stated above, she would start dressing with modesty and soundness of mind.
      And for those confusing us with Deeper life or SDA, please conduct your research well about witnesses and don’t subscribe to hearsay.
      Log on to jw.org and u would be deeply impressed…
      Thanks

    • cicimeleko

      July 14, 2016 at 2:31 am

      well said…..
      her bible trained conscience will alert her to follow and apply bible principles.
      thank you for introducing the website.
      please fellow commentators with further questions concerning the bible or other related questions kindly visit

      jw.org
      as loads of questions are answered. there is something for everyone including children.
      .

    • missnk

      July 14, 2016 at 10:15 am

      Majority of who? The stagnant number because of all the born ins? The year book keeps inflating your numbers so you don’t have an idea. Congregations are merging because the numbers are dropping, more and more young children are getting baptised so you have something to clap about at assemblies. You’re not infallible when it suits you and you’re God’s mouthpiece when it suits you. The hypocrisy in that religion is the worst.

      Thank heavens, the internet and the information are free, people can see what the religion is truly on about. How do you feel knowing that your contributions and those of struggling people are being used to pay $4000 a day because they have refused to give caesar’s things to Caesar? There’s a review coming in August and if the headquarters doesn’t provide the information, the fine will increase. Maybe that will make you think again.

    • missnk

      July 14, 2016 at 10:22 am

      How much brighter can the light get? Is there no limit? Instead of the so called “God’s organisation” to admit when they are wrong, it’s easy to say the light is getting brighter. I guess the organisation being a member of the UN for 10 years after claiming they were babylon the great and to have no part with her and then hurriedly pulling out after it became public in 2002 = the light getting brighter. This information is public knowledge, but you wouldn’t know that now

    • tee

      July 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm

      But this is a very simple question to answer, if you were indeed in the truth. You should know better. Blasphemy is sinning against the holy spirit am sure u know what that means.
      Over 5,000 people are getting baptised weekly and so happy they have been set free from lies and deciet of this world and you saying people are leaving. Maybe you should Google the fastest growing religion in america

    • missnk

      July 15, 2016 at 2:56 pm

      if it is a simple question, why haven’t you answered it? I doubt you know the meaning of blasphemy.

  19. Mind ur business

    July 14, 2016 at 10:11 am

    We all know we should dress well for service. But do you know if thats her best outfit? Let her be jare. I wonder y Nigerian always make a big deal out of nothing

  20. madamDmadam

    July 14, 2016 at 10:52 am

    missnk I sight u,u r disfellowed member! May God av mercy on u.

    • Receive Sight Now.

      July 14, 2016 at 12:02 pm

      @madamDmadam, “”disfellowed member”” or not, is she stating facts? Is it possible for you to “”sight”” that?

    • missnk

      July 14, 2016 at 9:55 pm

      loll! surprisingly, I’m not disfellowshipped neither have I been reproved. I simply stopped going after I was shocked by a householder’s question while in the ministry and after further research, I started realising how bad this religion was, and I still get bombarded by texts and calls for shepherding calls so I can come back. He asked me a simple question and I couldn’t answer, the elders couldn’t answer and neither could the CO. I’ll ask you and please answer me.

      “From Revelation 14:1, you say the 114,000 will be the only ones to go to heaven and this is a literal number?” I said yes.
      He asked me “in revelation 14:4, it says they are virgins, so only 114,00 virgins go to heaven?” I said no being a virgin was figurative. He asked me “how is the number literal and the description figurative”? I mumbled about doing further research and that was how I ended up here.

    • BijouxthisBijouxthat

      July 15, 2016 at 12:28 am

      You know what I said about the light getting brighter? Always have patience in Jehovah’s organization, in his own time, he makes things clearer…
      This question the householder asked you was answered in a study article last year. It was a series of articles on the 100th year rule of Christ Jesus. Please do find and study thoroughly…. And u know the fact that the CO couldn’t answer didn’t mean that it was false teaching…. Ask him again and justice would be done to the question ?

    • Dots

      July 15, 2016 at 7:36 am

      We are human, we do not claim to understand everything. We are always learning and truly with patience and humility you get to know more. I understand how that situation can make one feel. Missnk, take your time to study more and compare the organisation’s bible teachings with others, you will know it is still the path to follow. Thanks for sharing. The COs are bible students too remember.

  21. The Inerrant Word.

    July 14, 2016 at 11:34 am

    @Ethio and others, it is NOT about “”liking majority of what they (or anyone else) PREACH””; it is about following and believing ONLY the Word of God; it is about not believing, practising or preaching what is NOT in the Bible and/or what is contrary to what the Bible teaches.

  22. Nosa Awake

    July 14, 2016 at 12:23 pm

    Pls people, let her be, she just started. u can’t start learning today and become perfect. Very soon she will learn more about what the bibe says about dressing. If u don’t know, learn to ask questions. Or better still visit JW.ORG, all ur questions will be answer right there

  23. Dots

    July 14, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    @missnk and @receive sight now(hope you understand) the organisation (JW) uses all available platform to get the good news out there: we have used the radio, we are using TV broadcast, internet and printed publications, we are registered with the government of every country where are activities are being carried out. The need to reach the whole inhabited parts of the earth is great but note that we are not for or against the government and its agents. We respect instituted authorities and leverage on their platforms to get our work done. E.g Legal issues, licencing etc are all being handled by government agencies. This does not mean the bible truth should not be made known, we also do not force our bible based beliefs on anyone rather we reason with people from the scriptures. Also note that the organisation is humble to make correction when things become clearer and everyone is carried along, where else do you get that? The lights are indeed getting brighter. @missnk, you know so well that all the born ins are not even counted as witnesses until they are baptized, and all the bible students who are attending meetings are not Jehovah’s witnesses until they are baptized (you do not become a witness by just attending meetings), the contributions are never frivolously spent, except you do not want to be truthful, the millions of publications, kingdom halls and assembly halls being built and all other expenses explain what the contributions are being used for. I can’t talk much on the san Diego case but you know (I am using you know because I know you were once a witness) well that as much as possible brothers and sisters are encouraged too settle all disputes amicably and as much as possible, all forms of misconducts are handled “scripturally” (public reprove and disfellowship). This does not mean that the offended party cannot seek legal redress if they want to. Do not be bitter and like you well stated, apostates are real and you are acting like one.

    @I am the Lord, I change not, all the dates stated up there in your comments are LIES(wherever you cooked them up from). 1914 is the only significant date you stated there but it signifies none of all you maliciously stated, understand facts before you go about talking about issues.

    @Be not deceived, there is bible in your local language I am sure, if you cannot assimilate the english translation. Read and beg God for his holy spirit(note that I did not say God the Holy spirit) to help you understand his word. Jesus is not God, Holy spirit in not God, God is one(1) not 3 in 1. His name is Jehovah.

    • missnk

      July 14, 2016 at 10:03 pm

      If your religion cannot take criticisms, is it really a good religion? My cousin was sexually abused by an elder, her family reported it to the elders and they set up a judicial committee and the elder denied it. The result of that meeting was that because there were no 2 witnesses, there was nothing they could do. The matter was left in Jehovah’s hands and her family was cautioned about taking your brother to court. This elder went on to assault more children.

      These and many other similar cases have happened all over the world in the JW organisation. The cases and minutes of all these judicial committees are what the court is asking for so they can see how much damage was caused but the Jehovah’s witnesses organisation doesn’t want to so they can save face.

    • Dots

      July 15, 2016 at 7:51 am

      I understand you, I personally have been reproved but that was because I went to report myself. My mom also left the organisation because she feels we do not pray enough and she went back to C/S where she came from (she was sick and the people she spoke with were taking her to places she won’t readily go to). Always remember that elders are humans too and they can only go as far as the evidences they have. Look at the teachings and not the different personalities in there. You are there to worship Jehovah not the elders. If that brother actually sexually abused the sister, do you think Jehovah did not see it. I am certain the elders can only advice about legal redress but they cannot stop one from seeking it. Take your time to think things through, there is a new brochure titled Return to Jehovah, please read it, thanks.: jw.org/en/publications/books/return-to-jehovah/

    • Dots

      July 15, 2016 at 8:07 am

      We are always learning to change from our old bad ways, not everyone will change though. I have had brothers I lent money that were dishonest and never paid back but then I have met brothers that have put their comfort and resources on the line for me. It’s like that everywhere ( the good and the bad) but what about the bible truths, do they mean something? Sure they do.

    • xxxx

      July 15, 2016 at 3:29 pm

      Missnk,
      Sorry about that incidence. Sexual abuse is a life long trauma the offendee has to cope with for the rest of her life. True in line with the scriptures we try to settle matter amicably amongst ourselves. However in certain cases offendee’s are under no reproach where they to seek redress outside the congregation and in the court rooms. Sexual abuse/peadophilia is one of such case.

      In court cases too, cases get disqualified for lack of enough evidence and those cases might be true. We are sorry. We love you.
      As bad as it is recall that of jesus wonderfully , personally and carefully chosen disciples there was the thief and betrayer jesus. Who didn’t change until he plunged head first into the field of blood.

      However maybe this scriptures can help:
      Pro 15: 3 the eyes of Jehovah are everywhere, watching both the bad and the good.
      Mark 4:22; there is nothing hidden that will not be exposed; nothing carefully concealed that will not come out in the open.

      It will be great if you can come back.
      I started listening to this song “Photography” today by Ed Sheeran. And that song is dedicated to you. From me to you.
      We will be waiting for you to come home. Xoxo

    • Dots

      July 15, 2016 at 4:03 pm

      This is for xxxx, thanks for the message, missnk, please return to Jehovah. He loves you. It will be great to have you back. I am hoping one day my mom will come back too.

    • Ovi

      May 2, 2017 at 1:43 pm

      Hello missnk, may I ask you a question? Can the court of law pass any judgement without any evidence? The same applies to d congregation, the elders cannot pass any judgement without the number of witnesses mentioned. May I also remind you that this instruction is not of man but of Jehovah, it is what the bible says. Criminal offenses such as murder and rape/child abuse can be taken to the authorities of any land, the watchtower study edition of Nov 2016 confirms that. Please don’t let the devil take you out of Jehovah’s early organisation, most especially now that the time left is short. Have a great day missnk

    • Be not deceived.

      July 15, 2016 at 1:33 am

      @Dots, I pray for you. I know it is only by grace and mercy that I am in Christ. Reading your post saddens and wearies me and I know only God can break through this wall of deception in your life. Excluding the ‘french’, I have to agree with @Just me. I have tried to have a meaningful conversation with only two ‘Jehovah’s Witnesses’ in my life and I have never forgotten each one. Like your post, they saddened me greatly and I walked away from each one troubled and went into prayer for the people I had had the interaction with. The description @Just me gives is so apt. I remember especially the first I tried to discuss with (after him, I didn’t let my conversation with the second go too far, remembering the first but I was struck by how similar they were and how the same indices, so to speak, the same obstructive and negative spirits, the same brainwashed state, the same argumentative yet closed spirit were present,for example, even though the second experience was at least a decade after the first and the individuals in both were in different age brackets).

      This first attempt at meaningful conversation and discussion with a ‘Jehovah’s Witness’ was with a mature, older man. He was trying to preach to me and had come to the church office where I worked at the time. I, prayerfully, decided to give him some time and use the opportunity to get to know about the religion and organisation from one of its adherents and, also, ask some questions and hear directly from one of their followers/believers. I listened to him, but when I tried to ask questions (and please believe me, this was a very terrifying experience for me as I had never experienced anything like it and seen anything like that for myself in real life), when, I tried to quote Scripture that contradicted the beliefs and doctrines he was preaching, he would immediately cut in, raise his voice over what I was saying and repeat, as if by rote, all the unthinking stuff he had already said. This happened over and over and over and over and over. It didn’t matter what I said. As long as it contradicted and had the potential to show what he had been taught, what he believed, what he was ”witnessing” about, I never got past the first few words, the same thing would happen. If, however, I asked a question that was an invitation for him to explain more or reveal something new, open open up another topic, the experience was different. I was allowed to speak and finish what I had to say. And all the time, he spoke to me so indulgently, so patronisingly, and times when he cut in and raised his voice and I tried to tell him, to point out to him what he was doing and that he had been doing it over and over, he would argue and argue that he wasn’t arguing, that wasn’t interrupting what I was saying, and he would repeat his litany and very often go off tangent and say things that just did not make sense. I remember (this was at least two decades ago but I still remember that experience so well) when, for instance, he spoke against the Holy Trinity, and I tried to bring up chapter and verse, places in the Bible where God clearly speaks of Himself in the plural i.e. “”Us”” (note I say Himself NOT Themselves; there is only one God and “”great is the mystery of godliness””), and places where the Trinity is present and/or spoken of at the same time e.g. at the baptism of Jesus Christ, where the Father spoke from Heaven declaring: “”This is My Beloved Son.”” and the Holy Spirit descended on Jesus Christ as had earlier been prophesied to John the Baptist who was baptising Jesus, he cut in and raised his voice and just could not and did not address that and all the other Scriptures I brought up or tried to bring up and just kept ranting on (I’m sorry but it was a rant and it made no sense and it had no Biblical basis, nothing he said, in about at least two hours of my life expended on him, had any Biblical basis). It was like there was a tangible, so tangible it was almost visible, wall and prison around him. He couldn’t think for himself. He couldn’t entertain original thought or discussion. He couldn’t see. I came away from that experience very, very, very, very disturbed. I knew I had come in contact with something very disturbing, very draining, very negative and yes, evil. I didn’t like seeing that man like that. I didn’t like seeing any human being like that. He was in bondage. It was very clear. It was very troubling. And, I remember I PRAYED for his soul. I just had to to relieve and lift the sadness and burden I came away from that interaction with. The second experience was with a younger man who came with a lady to the house, also, to preach. I tried having a conversation with them for a few short minutes but as soon as I saw the same spirit manifesting, as soon as the same experience of a decade earlier began replaying itself, I cut short the conversation and ended it and wished them well.

      I am going to ask you, and all of God’s creation who are currently lost in that religion to do the same thing I ask muslims to do and that is: With all sincerity and humility in your heart, go before the Almighty God (there is only One called by that Name and only One Who is that Personality and He knows Himself) and confess all your sins before Him, and ask Jesus Christ, in the Presence of the Almighty God, that if He is, indeed, real, that if truly He is the Son of God, that if, indeed, truly, He is God and that no one can come to God except through Him, then He should, PLEASE, forgive your sins, have mercy on you and reveal Himself to you, and, also, give you His Holy Spirit, and the Almighty God should PLEASE ensure you do not die without having assured your eternity in Heaven with Him through the salvation offered in Jesus Christ. Please note the operative words: With ALL SINCERITY and HUMILITY. Don’t go before God in your pride and arrogance of heart and presume to test Him or throw Him a challenge or dare. Ha ha. He will never answer you. “”The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and a contrite heart, O God, You will not despise.””

      “”God bless you, God keep you, God make His Face shine upon you, and be gracious unto you; God lift up the Light of His Countenance upon you and give you peace”” in Jesus’ Name,

      Amen.

    • I absolutely agree

      July 15, 2016 at 12:39 pm

      Love, love, love this. Thank you.

    • Dots

      July 15, 2016 at 3:44 pm

      I see someone who loves God and seek him in you, that is commendable but the Holy book says my people perish because they lack knowledge. You contradicted yourself in your message, Almighty God, the creator of the Universe(including you and I) is Jehovah. He is the most high over all. I do believe in Jesus, I acknowledge Jesus as my saviour and I supplicate to Jehovah through Jesus(every knees have to bow at the name of Jesus), because he is the only way to reach God but note JESUS IS NOT GOD. Jesus specifically stated that “no one comes to the Father except through me”(John 14:6). He also said at a time in his ministry that his “food is to do the will of the one who sent him”(John 4:34). So Jesus knows there is someone greater than he is. During his baptism by John the baptist, God sent Jesus the holy spirit in the form of a dove and said: this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased. Note, Almighty God called Jesus his son. The holy spirit is not God too, rather God uses the Holy spirit to achieve whatever He desires. That is why we can pray to Jehovah to give us His Holy spirit through Jesus.

      The bible made mention of God, Jesus and the Holy spirit but did not state that they are God (I don’t know what version of the bible you have, KJV, Goodnews etc). In Mathew 28:19, Jesus said Go and make disciples of people of all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the son and of the holy spirit. (Note here that he did not say God the Father, God the son and God the Holy spirit) I am sure that is the only place in the bible you can mistake for trinity. Like I said, it depends on the version or translation of the bible you have. bible.com/bible/1/mat.28

      As for those you spoke to, I cannot defend what they did to you by shutting you up, personality varies, while explaining your view you should give room for others to air their views.

      Please, humbly beg Jehovah through Jesus with all sincerity of heart to give you His Holy spirit so that you can understand His word more. More than understanding, beg Him to help you put the things you learn to use in your life. The bible says in Mathew 5:3&6 that “happy are those poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heavens and those who thirst and hunger for righteousness for they shall be filled”. Then go out there and teach more people. God bless you,

  24. Queen Elsa

    July 14, 2016 at 7:26 pm

    Yeah, right….

  25. Just me

    July 14, 2016 at 8:36 pm

    Nothing more off-putting than a bunch of hypocritical BIGOTS who think they are the only right ones and spiritually superior and they have something ‘special’ that no on else has. It is kind of like someone thinking their relationship is the best thing EVER, and everyone else should strive to have their kind of relationship because it is just SOOOO amazing and something no one else has ever experienced before and therefore go around acting all smug and patronising about it. It is okay to appreciate what you have but don’t live in a bubble. If you are going to be smug, at least really, make an effort to understand other people’s situations/beliefs first (not just what you have been told by the organisation) before deciding that you are the SH*T (excuse my french). Many witnesses have no real understanding of what is out there, so how can you come to me claiming or implying spiritual/moral superiority or whatever? Not the perfect analogy but you get what I mean. Kind of ridiculous.

    Based on my experience many witnesses like to appear enlightened, open and philosophical but they are very far from these. They are closed minded and brainwashed, and repeat what they have been fed with over and over, lacking real depth. Not seeking to debate as this is certainly what they do best (debate and argue) and I really have no interest in their phoney manipulations. Take it or leave it, but this is my own opinion, which I am entitled to thank you very much. This is a cult. Not an evil one, but a manipulative, controlling and a most distressing to leave organisation – because you are isolated while in the organisation, and will be cut off (think harsh shunning by all the family and friends you have). I have has first hand encounters with not 10 or 20 witnessess some of who are sort of family members so I know exactly what I am talking about.

    Also, based on my experiences, I can safely say they are not a nice lot to meet, very vindictive, arrogant and malicious (and I’m being really polite). They are not genuine, and only try to apear friendly in order to ‘win lost souls’. The appearance of, but no real interest in the person (just an additional statistic for the ‘kingdom’) and they imagine that somehow they are superior to everyone else.

    Now I know that in line with their MO, they’ll come here to try to debate and create an argument or discussion out of this or maybe even diagnose my potential issues (knock yourselves out if it makes you sleep better at night), but personally, I again have no interest in debating. BUT BY ALL MEANS GO AHEAD. No, I am not bitter and I am very happy with my life (IJS in case anyone tries to make this an issue). No personal vendetta, just speaking from my own experience. I have met hindus, budhists, catholics, muslims, christians and people from a wide range of denominations, And in my experience many of the behaviourally least impressive people i have met are the witnesses mostly because I see beyond the fake smiles and and apparent piety and seeming knowledge, the lack of genuineness, realness, real knowledge and depth.

    All I have said are solely based on personal experiences. Please, by all means, practice your debating skills and recite the arguments you have been fed with. I honestly, couldn’t care any less…

    Love xoxo

    • missnk

      July 14, 2016 at 10:10 pm

      You said everything and more. In all honesty, the majority of them are good but the organisation brainwashes you to think you’re better than others with the whole us and people of the world and that’s where the wahala starts

    • Dots

      July 15, 2016 at 8:08 am

      You know so much yet understand so little.

    • I absolutely agree

      July 15, 2016 at 1:38 pm

      You on the other hand understand so much. How superior you are to everyone else, oh knowledgeable one! Oh that I may have a fraction of what you have, so I may be as enlightened as you. What glorious grace!

      This is sarcasm, don’t let it be lost on you. I know you actually genuinely believe you are superior in understanding. Er, no you are not.

  26. jacob

    July 14, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    “The actress has started her journey to be baptized and join the evangelical ministry of Jehovah’s Witnesses.”

    Baptism question #2:
    “Do you understand that your dedication and baptism IDENTIFY you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization? Having answered yes to these questions, candidates are in a right heart condition to undergo Christian baptism.”

    JWs teach that God expects exclusive devotion, yet loyalty is given to an organization comprised by man. Col 3:2 This preaching work hypocritically leads potential JWs to dedicate their life to the organization. Exod. 20:4,5; Matt 22:36,37; Rom 1:21,22,25

    To the nation of Israel, God WAS salvation. To JWs, the ORGANIZATION is salvation, which is spiritual idolatry.

    “Bible students need to get acquainted with the organization of the “one flock” Jesus spoke about at John 10:16. They must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is ESSENTIAL TO THEIR SALVATION. (Rev. 7:9, 10, 15) Therefore, we should start directing our Bible students to the organization as soon as a Bible study is established.” KM 11/’90 p 1

    Yet, it is also said by the WT,
    “As Christians, we face up to similar challenges today. We CANNOT take part in any modern version of idolatry—be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the IMPUTING OF SALVATION to a person or an ORGANIZATION.” WT ‘90/11/11 p 26

    These two contrasting teachings show the hypocritical and crooked path that JWs unwittingly present to the hearer at their neighbor’s door.

    When the devil took Jesus up to a high place showing him all the EARTHLY kingdoms, Jesus said, “Worship the Lord your God and SERVE HIM ONLY” Luke 3:8 JWs may mouth these words, but in reality they struggle to serve two masters, “Jehovah” and the organization.

    Read, JWs! “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be DEVOTED to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.” Matt 6:24

    Serving God successfully is through accepting and serving Christ with the guidance of Holy Spirit. Serving the organization is through your donations and presenting yourself as it’s slave. 2 Cor 11:4

    The GB and elder body are leading their sheep astray.
    “These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they ENTICE people who are just escaping from those who live in error. THEY PROMISE THEM FREEDOM, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “PEOPLE ARE SLAVES TO WHATEVER HAS MASTERED THEM.” If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.” 2 Pet 2:17-20

    What should be the motivating message to be preached by true ministers of God? As John the Baptist said,
    “A voice of one calling in the desert, ‘Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him. Every valley shall be filled in, every mountain and hill made low. The crooked roads shall become straight, the rough ways smooth. And all mankind will see God’s salvation.” Luke 3:4-6
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  27. BijouxthisBijouxthat

    July 15, 2016 at 12:19 am

    Hahaha hahaha Hahaha, all this vitriol for what again? My eyes kept widening as I kept going down what you wrote…. I for one hasn’t been brainwashed, my family hasn’t… None of the people I know too….
    It’s very easy to spew such hate against witnesses, I have it all…
    If been brainwashed is having to give huge sums of money to churches in the name of tithe for the Pastor’s to enrich themselves, then I am all for brainwashing ; if brainwashing means having to worship human beings turned demigod, then I am for it.; if its means not engaging in practices that safeguards and protects me, then I am for it! This type of brainwashing, I love it!
    We don’t debate, witnesses never debate.. We reason from the scriptures so you see, you even got it wrong there..
    And honey, please dont kid yourself, YOU CARE! When you don’t care, you ignore everything about that issue, you showed you cared by commenting..
    Don’t worry, we love you right back ?

    • BijouxthisBijouxthat

      July 15, 2016 at 12:21 am

      *Having not to give money in the name
      Having not to worship

    • I absolutely agree

      July 15, 2016 at 12:55 pm

      Have you ever seen anyone who has been brainwashed admit that they have been brainwashed? You wouldn’t even know! How can you tell?

      I see the ignorant attitude of superiority rear it’s ugly head. ‘pastors enriching themselves’, ‘oh, you worship a demigod’, or ‘my own practice protects and safeguards me, yours doesn’t’, and ‘we reason from the scriptures others don’t’, ‘we are so special’ bla bla bla. etc you really are just demonstrating what @justme spoke about now aren’t you. You can’t say you father’s farm is the biggest if you have never stepped out of it.

      Witnesses debate that they don’t debate and argue that they don’t argue… lol

      Then you try manipulation in case all else fails. I personally don’t see any vitriol, but someone speaking from his/her experiences. Obviously it makes you very uncomfortable, so feel free to ‘voltronise’ lmao.

    • Just me

      July 15, 2016 at 9:59 pm

      Erm, I really don’t care. Just don’t react too well to extreme ignorance and complete BS, ‘honey’. Love you right back sweetie!!

      Hey!!! I have an idea! Why not have a ‘oh-we-are-being-persecuted’ pity party at one of your meetings, dearie??

      Love xoxo

  28. Rayva

    July 15, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    @tee, the fastest growing religion in the world is Islam and its scary. The fastest growing denomination in america is mormon, followed by other non christian religious group like, deism, wicca, people with christian science beliefs. Jw was one of the fastest as at 2008 and they were at number 25, even then and till date mormon and SDA are still leading. Which google or news sites are you reading? Try the pew research. They are a nonpartisan fact tank group.

    • Just me

      July 15, 2016 at 1:55 pm

      Its the sort of thing they use to feel special about themselves. Sorry to burst your bubble guys. Do some actual research outside what you are told by the organisation. Then you can maybe start to be taken seriously.

    • Dots

      July 15, 2016 at 5:03 pm

      There is no contest of any sought, no need to feel superior to others. Every one here have access to bible, read, study and meditate. Above all, pray. If really you want to understand then practice what you have learnt. Being the fastest growing congregation or church or organization amount to nothing. Mathew 24:14 says the preaching work is for a witness. NOT EVERYONE WILL LISTEN.

  29. Just me

    July 15, 2016 at 5:36 pm

    @Dots abeg ageg abeg…

    You knew you were not contesting anything when you said fastest growing religion in America. Fastest compared to? Faster than? Is that not a competitive index? You say, yours is not like ‘pastors who enrich themselves off their congregations’ is that not a comparison? This is exactly what I meant when I said you guys are not deep but think you are all that. You start with competition and an air of superiority and when called out on your BS, you say it is not a contest. You should have known that before you started doling out fake statistics fed to you like unintelligent sheep.

    Wait… who started this whole ‘we are the fastest growing religious body in the US’ matter? Who brought it into the conversation? Was it not you or one of yours? How come it is no longer of any consequence that that you have found out it is untrue. Besides, even if it were true, does that make you special? There is a fastest growing religion in China, and India and Brazil and Pakistan etc too. And it is not Jehovah’s Witnesses. Should they feel extra special too? Like everyone else has really missed it? My point is, this is not even a point to have been raised, but it makes you guys feel good, so they tell you this…

    lol @ Not everyone will listen. Next tactic psychological/emotional/religious blackmail? I’m over that. Ko le werk.

    If you really cared like you claim you do, go in your closet and pray, Don’t come here and be arguing and hyping yourselves and being patronising over nothing.

    • julian

      July 16, 2016 at 11:03 pm

      mo nawa ooo….u guys dey para seriously! @Dots abeg ageg abeg… Abeg no vex…its just a misunderstanding dat u feel JW are ignorant and arogant. I for one don’t like commenting on any post or comment for or against my believes cos pple might misinterprete it. Telling me what i ad believed is not valid would be really daunting , like say i’ve bn stupid for not seeing d truth n i know soo many pple feel dat way wen we preach to dem at first. I want u to know dat we are Not Perfect human beings we are only striving to adhere to God”s principles, we are also advised not to judge others, we only share d Good news of God’s kingdom with dem cos we believe its d only solution to humans problems as Jesus taught in his model prayer. We bn also trained to share dis belief respectfully with prejudice even wen we are shunned we should leave the house respectfully. I do know if someone might av hurt in d process of preaching or argument bh i simply apologise on d person’s behalf.

    • Dots

      July 18, 2016 at 6:31 am

      Lol @just me I did not raise the issue of being the fastest growing religion. I was only trying to correct the person who raised it because there is actually no contest. Even if one knows bible truths and bible principles and such one does not strive to live by it, it is of no use to have known in the first place. I am proud to be a JW and I am trying to put the things I learn to use.

    • Just me

      July 18, 2016 at 2:30 pm

      @Dots, give it a rest will you? xoxo…

  30. julian

    July 16, 2016 at 10:37 pm

    Omo nawa ooo….u guys dey para seriously! @Dots abeg ageg abeg… Abeg no vex…its just a misunderstanding dat u feel JW are ignorant and arogant. I for one don’t like commenting on any post or comment for or against my believes cos pple might misinterprete it. Telling me what i ad believed is not valid would be really daunting , like say i’ve bn stupid for not seeing d truth n i know soo many pple feel dat way wen we preach to dem at first. I want u to know dat we are Not Perfect human beings we are only striving to adhere to God”s principles, we are also advised not to judge others, we only share d Good news of God’s kingdom with dem cos we believe its d only solution to humans problems as Jesus taught in his model prayer. We bn also trained to share dis belief respectfully with prejudice even wen we are shunned we should leave the house respectfully. I do know if someone might av hurt in d process of preaching or argument bh i simply apologise on d person’s behalf.

  31. julian

    July 16, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    *without prejudice……. Soory my bad

  32. julian

    July 16, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    Brothers can u pls consider phillipians 2:1-3 If, then, there is any encouragement in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any spiritual fellowship, if any tender affection and compassion, 2 make my joy full by being of the same mind and having the same love, being completely united, having the one thought in mind. 3 Do nothing out of contentiousness or out of egotism, but with humility consider others superior to you. This is really wrong! So many pple already think JW’s are bunch of “brainwashed hypocritical bigots” why give dem more reason to do so? Must we comment on everypost? Does dis help expand d goodnews? Does dis increase d love pple av for us? (Ok, i know we can’t be generally loved anyway ) just don’t let us become a stumbling block by our comments (word) Even if pple are hostile towars our belief y not apply king Solomon’s proverb 17:1414 Beginning a fight is like opening a floodgate;Before the quarrel breaks out, take your leave. Plss…..Jehovah would not like dis, Jesus would be disappointed, lets be descreet with our feelings , reaction n lets consider others.

  33. julian

    July 16, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    Brothers can u pls consider phillipians 2:1-3 If, then, there is any encouragement in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any spiritual fellowship, if any tender affection and compassion, 2 make my joy full by being of the same mind and having the same love, being completely united, having the one thought in mind. 3 Do nothing out of contentiousness or out of egotism, but with humility consider others superior to you. This is really wrong! So many pple already think JW’s are bunch of “brainwashed hypocritical bigots” why give dem more reason to do so? Must we comment on everypost? Does dis help expand d goodnews? Does dis increase d love pple av for us? (Ok, i know we can’t be generally loved anyway ) just don’t let us become a stumbling block by our comments (word) Even if pple are hostile towars our belief y not apply king Solomon’s proverb 17:1414 Beginning a fight is like opening a floodgate;Before the quarrel breaks out, take your leave. Plss…..Jehovah would not like dis, Jesus would be disappointed, lets be descreet with our feelings , reaction n lets consider others.

  34. Desmond

    July 18, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    you people should let her be, is there anything being a Jehovah’s Witness. all the bible say will have to know God and Jesus-Christ to gain everlasting life. John 17:3

  35. samurai Samuel

    July 27, 2016 at 5:54 am

    Jehovah’s witnesses are simply d best. Jesus our leader said because we are his disciples, d world will come to hate and persecute us. So am even happy wen u guys speak bad about us, cuz Tis fuda proof dat we are d true followers of Christ [For those who don’t like witnesses] well, u ultimately have two options, either u go hug a transformer or go jump off a Clift

    • Just me

      July 27, 2016 at 10:26 pm

      Lol, don’t flatter yourself. Or do.

  36. esthy

    August 19, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    Okay, I know this is coming in a little late, but lemme just make this clear, JWs are ordinary people with the same problems other people have. Aside from the persecution we face for being different and preaching, we also have to combat our inner weakness (smoking, drunkenness etc) ,we experience depression, anxiety, we lose loved ones, we face disaster, we are often dissapointed by brothers who we thought should know better and sometimes we react negatively , in a sentence …we are HUMAN and IMPERFECT…just like the rest of the world. The only difference is we strive to live our lives and solve problems using Bible principles and commands .We do not pretend that we don’t make mistakes, sometimes we even fail to apply Bible principles, and then we ask for God’s forgiveness and try not to repeat our mistakes. It is a daily struggle that is made even harder by those who are not courageous enough to live such a life, but are content to stand at the sidelines with a magnifying glass to watch for mistakes, but nvm we expect it and God’s word z always there to comfort us we feel down. We have all had doubts about Jehovah’s organization but the difference btw those who leave because of those doubts and those who stay z that those who stay did not leave those doubts hanging but made research and were satisfied. sorry to those who said an elder or CO couldn’t answer their question, they are humans not answering machines, you should not have given up. thankfully we have a website now and even a research guide to help us. We are just imperfect humans trying to do things God’s way, we never claimed to be saints.please nobody should use my comments to insult me, am just trying to set things straight, okay?

    • Judge not

      August 29, 2016 at 2:21 am

      “those who are not courageous enough to live such a life, but are content to stand at the sidelines with a magnifying glass to watch for mistakes…”

      People scrutinize witnesses only because they have an air of moral/religious higher standing and are so judgemental, don’t you get that? Sometimes passively, and sometimes it is camouflaged as in your statement above but its really all the same. I mean, seriously, people ‘who are not courageous enough to live such a life’? You mean everyone else who isn’t a witness? No offence but that’s a really silly approach and only proves the points above that you need to get over yourselves.

    • esthy

      November 22, 2016 at 8:38 am

      Sorry if i sounded judgemental there, didn’t mean to. It’s just that so many people just judge based on hearsay and they are vicious in doing so. And by ‘who are not courageous enough to live such a life’ i mean those who maybe were formerly witnesses or were studying and left. They may say they left because of an incorrect teaching but it’s more likely that they couldnt live by the bible standards we follow and wanted moral freedom but they use the former as an excuse. i have some more things to say,i will come back some other time.bye

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