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French Police Enforce Ban on Muslim Swimwear “Burkini” following ISIS Attacks

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Police Enforce Burkini BanLast week, the Nice administration, issued an order banning swimwear “burkinis” with religious connotations, citing security concerns.

Several other cities on France’s Mediterranean and Atlantic coasts have banned burkinis this summer following heightened tensions in France preceded by series of attacks by the Islamist State.

UK Mirror reported that French Police officers were seen enforcing the “burkini ban” at the promenade des anglais beach in Nice.

The officers forced a woman to remove her Muslim dress as she sunbathed on a beach, and fined her $42 for flouting the order.

The woman, Siam, a mother of two, whose family members have been French citizens for at least three generations, said: “I wasn’t even planning to swim, just to dip my feet”.

At a court in Nice on Monday, judges upheld the “burkini ban” in the resort of Villeneuve-Loubet, ruling that the female swimwear was liable to cause offence and to provoke people to violence.

Judges ruled that the clothing could be viewed as a “provocation exacerbating tensions” within France, which is currently under a State of Emergency following ISIS’ attacks, adding that the ruling was “necessary, appropriate and proportionate”.

While many see the ban as discriminatory, others argue that the swimwear, resembling a full-body wetsuit with a hood, oppresses women and violates France’s secular principles.

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49 Comments

  1. Prince

    August 24, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    If you were not planning to swim leave the pool area. Get a bucket of water and deep you gaddam feel in it. Lets have peace in the world again.

    • Bus

      August 24, 2016 at 2:55 pm

      This is just an innocent woman trying to have a good time. I think this victimisation might push more to extremism. This is definitely not the solution.

      My heart aches whenever people say Muslims are terrorists. I am a Muslim, and all I want is peace. Yes, I agree, there are terrible muslims. Just like we have terrible Nigerians, terrible blacks. But this generalisation is wrong.

      There was no terrorism some years back. Until the US decided to invade Iraq in search of whatever. Many innocent lives were lost and many terrorists, born.

    • Naijatalk

      August 24, 2016 at 3:53 pm

      Do you really know your history? 9/11, before that the bombing of the US embassy in Kenya, Tanzania, before that several attacks in Israel, car bombings, school bus bombings, hijacked flight, World Trade Center bombing, too many numerous to list. I’m tired.

    • Bus

      August 24, 2016 at 4:24 pm

      I know history my dear. Now do you? When was Iraq invaded?

      Not my history please.

    • Naijatalk

      August 24, 2016 at 5:13 pm

      Hi Bus,
      Are you referring to the Iraq gulf war? Because the 2nd Iraq invasion happened after 9/11. What triggered the gulf war? Even before the gulf war shall we revisit terrorist activities in the 80’s. The US did not make this people bad. You can however blame the US for thinking everyone is worth saving, and every cause worth fighting for. If these terrorist monsters have gripe with the US, why take it out on Spain, France, London, Turkey, Belgium, Nigeria, Kenya, India, and a host of other nations? Are their actions defensible?

    • EC

      August 24, 2016 at 7:21 pm

      Bus is making a valid point. however terrorism did exist prior to 9/11. Again like Bus has stated, the US is to blame for a lot of the extreme religious fundamentalism today. Remember this, when the US does harm to others they will say they are trying to protect themselves, but when the “other” retaliates the US are very good at manipulating the rest of the world into thinking the “other”are terrorist. Once you do not align yourself the the beliefs of the superpower then you have a problem.

    • Just my 1 Cents

      August 24, 2016 at 10:08 pm

      “There was no terrorism some years back”. LOOL. It’s so funny and sad when people say this.

      @Bus, how did you think Islam spread into Africa? What do you call Islamic conquest? You think people willingly accepted Islam without bloodshed?

      I have nothing against you as a Muslim bc of several reasons including the fact that you don’t really have a choice, but let’s call a spade a spade and be honest with ourselves. We Christians aren’t perfect ourselves either, but we will not get anywhere if we don’t have honest discussions.

    • Factual

      August 25, 2016 at 3:02 am

      Bus no need to defend yourself or your faith. You only need Gods approval. Many people out there need serious schooling to understand the basics of what is going on….Terror actually started over the span of ( Israeli / Palestinian conflict) but worsened because of the foreign invasions to the Middle East. Then evil local champions are also taking advantage of the situation…..shame shame on them all.

      Focus on the kind and reasonable people out there. Many people interact with at least 1 Muslim a day and yet their focus is always on the crazies because it’s human nature to be concerned about these things.

      Terrorists are extremely horrible people and I blame them for all that is happening to innocent Muslims. Many attacking everyday Muslims don’t enter mosques or attend Islamic lectures nor follow the back lash regular Muslims face even from extremists so how will they know that Muslims are condemning these people? Do they think Muslims are enjoying the way their faith is being hijacked?The press is never there to glamorize those events the way they do with terror attacks….but just as bad cops are being exposed for their shooting black citizens, one day the truth of the politics behind terrorism will be exposed….

      To the person who said how was Islam spread to Africa. Google crusade and the history behind the formation of the Protestant churches.

    • Aso Oke

      August 24, 2016 at 5:43 pm

      Olodo, why don’t you keep your goddam feel (abi na feet) to your self. its because of people like you that the world knows no peace

  2. jinkelele

    August 24, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    HA!!!
    Haba so they now force them to remove it? so you will remove a burkini. Thats harassment. What of they dont have anything else to change into

    • The Real Oma

      August 24, 2016 at 6:28 pm

      Then they should stay in their house, damn it!

  3. Damilola

    August 24, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    I’m glad, France proceeded to have strict restrictions, it’s much needed. Muslims abuse their freedom, they have no boundaries and limitation.

  4. Mr. Egghead

    August 24, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    I don’t know how I feel about this.
    Maybe I’m not so far-leaning but I can’t see why a woman in a burkini should not be allowed by the pool. A woman who blocks out her face in a public area? Yes. But not a woman who just wants to cover up the rest of her body. The burkinis are basically wetsuits with hijabs. You can’t hide a bomb in a wetsuit
    The Islamists have messed things up for everybody. A dangerous form of intolerance is becoming the new normal. The French are afraid and are reacting in a manner that is probably too strong.

    But how was she hoping to sunbathe after covering up herself like that? Odd

    • Just my 1 Cents

      August 24, 2016 at 10:20 pm

      I actually agree with you, I am in the middle about this. A woman covering her body should not be harassed regardless of what religion you practice. Will a Nun be treated the same way?

      But I can’t really blame the French. I heard Tunisia and Algeria banned Hijabs in some areas due to extremism. These so called Islamic countries can see that there is a BIG problem, and they are doing something about it.

  5. ify

    August 24, 2016 at 1:53 pm

    fear leads to ignorance that’s all i can say about this situation

  6. AB

    August 24, 2016 at 2:07 pm

    its their country, let them do as they wish! Perhaps its time the west start taking a tough stance on these issues. Maybe that way these terrorists or those thinking it will wake up and people are kept safe! Anything for National security I am all of right about now! Enough is enough and No I do not have any issues with Muslims generally, My closest girls are Muslims but its about time now…Take it all off or stay home !!!

  7. Tee

    August 24, 2016 at 2:17 pm

    Sir, you don’t see anything bad, biko try going to Yemen, Oman, or Saudi and wear what you like. Why is it that you guys see the truth and hide behind your computers, instead of saying the truth. I bet you will do worse if dem burn your house talkless of your country people all in the name of covering head. Biko, if the country take precaution and you feel threatened, humiliated, breach of right, you are free to relocate to Yemen, Saudi or Abu Dhabi. Someone mentioned earlier that why are they running to Christian nation when they have super powers in UAE. All Muslims are not terrorist but all terrorist are Muslims.

    • MUSE

      August 24, 2016 at 3:25 pm

      Thank you! I wish i could like your comment a 100x, if you go to all these Saudi Arabia and the rest, you dare not wear some things and they don’t care that you are not a national. If banning somethings is what will make the French people feel safe then so be it! it’s their country, everyone is crying victim these days for no reason. please if you can’t abide by the rules please stay in your country and wear you hijabs.

    • missnk

      August 24, 2016 at 10:49 pm

      I was going to say exactly this. If you go to any country, you abide by their rules and respect the culture. I can’t go to Saudi and wear a summer dress baring my arms and shoulders, I’ll respect their culture and dress appropriately. If I want to dress half naked, I know which countries to go to

  8. whocares

    August 24, 2016 at 2:19 pm

    France is in the EU no? I wonder how they plan to defend themselves in the EctHR..

  9. Naijatalk

    August 24, 2016 at 2:33 pm

    It may not have come to this if other peace loving Muslims and powerful Muslim nations had taken a proactive stance against ISIS and terrorists in general. Now the rest of the world will assume the “Siddon” look position just as they have been doing all these years.
    There will be open discrimination against Muslims and Muslim lives will be threatened but people who under normally speak up have been silenced.

    • Naijatalk

      August 24, 2016 at 2:33 pm

      *would

    • tunmi

      August 25, 2016 at 8:02 pm

      They did and they always do

  10. Adio_Braimoh

    August 24, 2016 at 2:56 pm

    I won’t condone oppression. But there’s a new law that prohibit wearing of bukinis at nice beach due to recent attack and everyone has to abide with irrespective of your religion. If you find bikini as revealing your body at the beach immoral, kindly Keep your moral dressing to where it suits.

  11. cch134

    August 24, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    Well said! we abide with the rules when we visit Muslim countries and cover up so its simple Muslims should obey the rules in France or be fined..that is fair! If you want the world to stop calling every Muslim a terrorist then lets see them standing against extreme groups like ISIS, let them rally round and preach about and openly condemn it.

    • Aso Oke

      August 24, 2016 at 5:40 pm

      Another olodo, do your research, Thousands of Muslims marched in London to protest ISIS and other extremist groups, but just because the media doesn’t cover it you make dumb statements like this. Muslims have been the biggest help in fight against terrorism in America, Europe should work on the model of inclusion as opposed to vilifying the innocent. I’m sure people like you would have supported slavery because it was lawful at one point in history

    • Mr. Egghead

      August 24, 2016 at 9:34 pm

      Stop calling people olodo
      Besides, the guys who marched in London are Shia but ISIS is Sunni!
      It’s easy for them to condemn ISIS. I’d like to see them condemn militant shia groups then I’ll take them serious.

    • Chekwube

      August 25, 2016 at 12:37 am

      Let your Muslim leaders come out and condemn the actions of your terrorist Muslim brothers..I am yet to see or hear them do that….until then Muslims abide by the rules of the country you reside in or you relocate back to Yemen and other extremists countries where they will allow you to cover yourself with 50 or more yards of black materials …thank you…more countries pls join in the ban…enough is enough .

    • Just my 1 Cents

      August 24, 2016 at 10:31 pm

      @Aso Oke, this is the biggest problem I have with the Muslim community. They don’t SCREAM loud and protest when a foreigner is treated badly in Saudi Arabia, Dubai, etc. It’s a hypocritical double standard.

      If Muslims loudly stand up against how poorly Christians are treated in Islamic countries and Nigeria (North), Christians will equally stand up for you guys. You are even lucky a lot Christians will defend your liberties no matter what, but how many Muslims will defend Christians liberties in Islamic countries etc Very few. That’s the point

  12. Gorgeous

    August 24, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    If you don’t want anyone to see any part of your skin. Stay at home! Those ones that wear the face covering crack me up and are really dangerous in any sane place in the world. It’s not by covering your whole body that you are holy. Holiness is all in the mind. So all these people should stay at home abeg. That is how they will be praising themselves for dressing like they are in chains and sneering at those who want to feel the natural breeze and enjoy the world. You don’t want to show skin, yet you cover yourself up and show up at a place to stare at people whose skin is shaking all over the place in your face. Seems perverted to me!

    • Aso Oke

      August 24, 2016 at 5:36 pm

      Olodo, why don’t you keep that stupid ignorant comment in your head. Who are you to judge?

    • missnk

      August 24, 2016 at 10:51 pm

      who are you to judge her? olodo rapata

  13. Aso Oke

    August 24, 2016 at 5:35 pm

    The western hypocrites, These areas are just becoming just like ISIS. ISIS prey on the innocent, Nice police is doing the same. So much for freedom. True Christians will condemn these actions by the police, but all those phony will be praising these barbarous acts. Muslim extremist make up less than 1% of the entire Muslim population, So is it right to vilify the innocent? This lady was not hurting anybody, its pure hate and racism that only helps fuels ISIS’s message. No one should judge how someone else chooses to practice their belief. If she feels that covering up makes her serve God better, who are you to judge?. As a Christian, I’m sure a lot of you on here saying if she wants to cover up she should stay at home will probably do the same to Jesus just like the pharisees. Oppression is the mother of extremism and terrorism. Don’t be zombies for media outlets, do your research before making stupid comments.

    • Pompey

      August 25, 2016 at 9:52 am

      ” No one should judge how someone else chooses to practice their belief”

      Let my Christian self take that your statement to Saudi Arabia and choose to practice my belief how I want, without expecting judgement. Do you want to bet where it will land me?

  14. Corolla

    August 24, 2016 at 6:12 pm

    “The officers forced a woman to remove her Muslim dress as she sunbathed” sigh!. I get that the country has security issues, but this is just wrong.

  15. Ariyike

    August 24, 2016 at 7:14 pm

    The point is they knew there was a ban on wearing burkini to the beach, so why disobey the law. If it was a Christian that disobeyed their law, in their own country we all know the repercussion. They go to other countries and want to dedicate to them what to do, off which is not acceptable. When you are in Rome, you act like a Roman. Women are not even allowed freedom of movement in the middle East, not to talk of going to the beach.

  16. The Real Oma

    August 24, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    All those saying ‘innocent woman’ and how the French police is overreacting should just pray never to lose a loved one to the evil antics of these cursed people, what is a woman asked to remove her hijab compared to tens of people bombed to their deaths???
    No precaution is too much when it comes to preserving people’s lives jare.

  17. Kemi Dipo

    August 24, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    She shouldn’t have gone to the beach unaccompanied by a man as a true Muslim. Why wear a bikini to sun bathe? French people are obviously worried and insecure. It’s their country, they have a right to make laws that suit them same way the West has no say in the way Arab nations make and implement their laws.

  18. Oyinda

    August 24, 2016 at 10:52 pm

    So much for the land of liberte, egalite, fraternite.

    If you read the full story you will realize that she wasn’t wearing a burkini (a swimsuit that is made to cover all parts of the body except for the hands, feet and face, very much like a wetsuit actually). What she was wearing however was a long sleeve top and leggings. It wasn’t swim wear and she had no plans to swim. And please don’t tell me why go to the beach if you have no plans to swim, people do that all the time including me, there is no requirement for swimming or even sunbathing at the beach, not even in France.
    It might have been better for the French authorities to say no long sleeves, pants, hats or scarves are allowed on the beach. It is rather disingenuous of them to ban burkinis when anyone on the beach wearing anything with long sleeves and pants is essentially wearing the same attire minus a head scarf. It is clear discrimination against muslim women and you all know it. I wonder if they would ask nuns to remove their habits too.

    For those saying if they don’t like it then they can go back to where they came from, you do realize that there are many muslims in France who were born and raised in France right? There are muslims who have been in Europe for centuries. And yes many muslim women especially in the west and in Nigeria too wear the hijab out of choice not because a man forced them to. I know many of these strong confident women who choose to stand by their convictions even when it may not be popular or in fashion to do so.

    To address the arguments of so called “muslim countries” having rules about dressing. There are many countries with significant muslim majorities with no such rules (Indonesia, Nigeria, Egypt, Tunisia, Morrocco, Turkey, etc) so please don’t confuse culture with religion. Even in the so called ‘muslim countries’ non-muslims are not forced to wear a hijab. If that were the case none of you will be vacationing in Dubai and going back year after year.

    One more thing please enough with the tale that muslims aren’t speaking out against terrorists. You let the actions of a few (less than 1%) lead you to make judgements about everybody else even when you should know better. So you expect the rest of us to go about apologizing for the beliefs of people we never met? We can only speak for ourselves and those that we know. The majority of the victims of these attacks have been muslim, but it seems the lives of those that die in the west seem to be more important than the rest.

    Terrorists come in all ethnicities, races and religions, Enough with that false and illogical argument that all terrorists are muslims. Terrorists have been in existence well before 9/11. If you care to do your own research rather than swallow what you see in the media hook line and sinker, you will see this. Even as recent as the 80s and 90s, planes were routinely hijacked by terrorists. Please ask yourselves what was the ethnicity or religion of these people? Why do you think movies about planes being hijacked were so common in the 80s and 90s? The same way movies about today’s version of terrorism are common and the antagonists are now almost always of middle eastern descent. In the 80s they used to be from Eastern Europe or Russia. One man’s liberator is another’s terrorist and the winners usually get to write the history books.

    It would be easier for many to just admit that they have finally let the fanatics win and you have given in to your fears. Thanks for helping them create and recruit more disillusioned people for their army. Clap for yourselves. This is exactly what they wanted and you are giving it to them on a silver platter. You are helping ISIS and their ilk, as well as their apocalyptic visions come to life. ISIS believes that the end of the world will begin with the caliphate they are trying to create. We should be asking ourselves where did they come from and how were they able to recruit so many disillusioned young people in the first place, What system created this mess and how can it be stopped. Or maybe we would sit-back instead, find divisions and and fight amongst ourselves while their apocalyptic visions play out and lead us to another world war.

    Islam has been in existence for over 1400 years, but these types of attacks are fairly new in human and Islam’s history, please ask yourselves what is driving the phenomenon. As a muslim I have been asking myself the same question. Allah (swt), his word, grace and mercy don’t change but humans do. I won’t be apologizing for any terrorist’s actions because they do not represent me, so don’t expect me to. However I will condemn their actions and have sympathy and empathy for their victims the same way all decent humans do. The same way it is clear that what happened on that beach is discrimination. Simply because there is a law allowing it does not change what it is. That woman has become another victim of the fallout.

    • Toks

      August 25, 2016 at 5:51 am

      Thanks Oyin! May ALLAH (SWT) bless you and your entire generation for this piece. Amin.

      A lot of people see the truth but they are blind.

    • Na

      August 25, 2016 at 10:07 am

      Absolute hogwash Oyin and you know it!

      “I wonder if they would ask nuns to remove their habits too.”
      Well, maybe because nuns don’t have a recent history of bombing people to smithereens.

      I like how you singled out only Dubai when trying to show how Muslim countries can be flexible. You and I both know that Dubai was built and is being sustained on tourism. From the onset, they know they had to switch mode or else the plan of attracting the world wasn’t going to happen. And miss me with that BS that non-muslims aren’t forced to wear hijab. I’ve worked in Saudi and Iran if you don’t respect yourself and cover your hair, there will be consequences.

      You say fewer than 1% of Muslims are the terrorists. Really? But can we talk about the number of people these 1% have killed? The wide range of families whose lives have been turned upside down because of this your perceived 1%?

      Nobody is asking you to apologize abeg. Keep your apology to yourself. But DO NOT insult us by making it seem like we are making a mistake to be wary of Muslims. The majority of you may not be carrying bombs but the tendency to get violent when matters concerning your religion are concerned is overwhelming.

      The nice accountant who works in my office who we all believed was one of the “peaceful and tolerant” ones recently showed us his true colors when there was an argument at lunch regarding Donald Trump. Islam was brought up and this guy was downright ready to stab a colleague for daring to speak against Islam. Why? Why do y’all get so incensed? How many movies have been made mocking Christ? Books? Music videos even?

      Don’t get it twisted and say my colleague’s issue was an isolated incident so I shouldn’t be judging based on this. No. Throughout my walk in life I have seen this trait surprisingly displayed by educated and exposed Muslims, the real practicing ones, not the ones who are just Muslims on an application form. They’re always ready to fight to the death when their religion is “insulted” in their perception.

      You know that this is the disposition of the average Muslim.
      And we are scared.
      We are very scared.

    • "changing moniker"

      August 25, 2016 at 6:44 pm

      Why mention Dubai. What happened to Saudi, Afghan, Yemen, etc. Hide behind your computer and endorse terrorism by condemning people trying to protect themselves.
      Your fellow Muslims are killing Christians in the North, but do we expect “peaceful ” Muslims like you to condemn it????
      I can’t relate Islam with peace. …its inconceivable.

    • Oyinda

      August 25, 2016 at 7:13 pm

      @Na & @”changing moniker”

      Hogwash? Really?! You read my comment and all you got is hogwash?

      Please where did I endorse terrorism? Abi in your fury to respond you forgot your reading and comprehension? I’m not hiding behind any computer I made valid points and observations. It’s not my fault if you are too emotional to handle them.

      The whole world is looking for solutions, and the best the French could come up with was banning burkinis? They should be looking inward and trying to figure out why their country has not only become a breeding ground but also a target.

      So I singled out Dubai, you didn’t see the part where I mentioned Turkey, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Indonesia, etc. There are many other countries that I didn’t mention in Africa (Nigeria included) with majority or significant muslim populations with out any hijab laws if you care to look beyond your nose. Or you also now believe that Boko Haram had no political motivation behind it.

      It seems you also believe Saudi Arabia and Iran represent all muslims and we get all our direction from them right? You do realize that they are a small fraction of muslims in the world right? How many of your muslim friends have tried to kill you because you disagreed with their religion? Do you even have any real or actual muslim friends? Or you just call them friends out of convenience? And throughout your life these are the only examples you have seen? really? please where have you been living? Clearly you only see what you want to see. I’m not here to change your mind just present another side of the story that often goes unsaid.

      If the > 1 billion muslims in the world chose to kill everyone who disagreed with their faith, then the world would have been blown to “smithereens” a long time ago. There won’t be any non-muslims in your so called ‘muslim countries’.

      You may choose to be wary of muslims that is your prerogative, I can only talk about myself and those I interact with none of whom have tried to kill anyone. The people that are intent on causing harm will not come in a form you fear or despise, they hardly ever do. How many of the attacks that have happened in France were from women wearing hijab? Do you actually now believe that forcing them to remove their religious garb will make them less successful if they choose to cause harm. You do realize that many of them are French citizens right? Or the goal is to make their country uncomfortable for them to stay in so they leave? where do they go? Or you want to propose some quarantine zone for muslims? Or you want new type of concentration camp to be created? And this is supposed to achieve greater peace?

      As @Factual said in his/her comment the holocaust in which over 6 million jews were killed was not caused by muslims, the 2 world wars were not caused by muslims, In fact majority of the pain, suffering and deaths that have occurred over the last 1400 years were not faught nor instigated by muslims (please tell me what was the faith of these people again?), but please continue believing what you want to believe. I still wonder how these events will go down in the history books. It’s always interesting but sad to see history repeating itself. Even when we think we are more evolved than our forefathers.

      However my recommendation to everyone to expand their horizons, please read and do your research. Get your news from varied and objective sources. The objectivity may be hard to find, but if you care about the whole story and not just one side, then get you news from multiple sources and try to distill the reality from your deductions. How do you think the relative peace Europe has enjoyed over the last 6 decades was achieved? A lot of the turmoil you see in the Middle East and Africa today is a result of those decisions. The colonial and imperialist legacy did not only affect Africa, India and Pakistan, it affected the Middle East too. How were those countries formed? Why do most of them have dictators? Have you asked yourselves where did Al-Qaeda come from? or how ISIS became a thing? How did the Taliban come to rule Afghanistan? Its a shame the study of history seems to have died in Nigeria and most of our past history was written by the colonizers.

      There are some Frontline documentaries that I hope will be easy for you to follow and can help you understand and digest some of this if you care to be informed. pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/
      I’ll also recommend David Fromkin’s book, “A peace to end all peace” which gives historical accounts of some of the events that happened the after the fall of the Ottoman Empire and WWI.

      I was recently in Nigeria and I got innocent questions about Islam from my non-muslim friends that made me realize that even in Nigeria a lot of people are not informed about the basics of Islam. I was happy to be in a position to enlighten them. I guess because there are so many muslims in Nigeria I just assumed some things are common knowledge. Living outside Nigeria has been great for my spiritual growth because I had to go out of my way to learn for myself. In Nigeria it’s easy and convenient to just be lazy and follow/listen to Imam/pastor. My advise to people of all faiths as with everything else, in life do your research and get all accounts then make an informed decision.

      Finally if you believe God has your back and he knows the beginning and end of all things then have no fear. And if you don’t believe in God then you definitely should believe in reason and rationality not driven by fear. Wolves are more effective in sheeps’ clothing no?

  19. Nkwor

    August 25, 2016 at 12:59 am

    I see things in white, grey and black. It is true that it is quite discriminating to tell a fellow citizen of a certain religion to remove her Burkina; but come to think of it, France has gone through a lot of loss (do you know what it means to lose a loved one and know the people responsible?) and pain as a result of a certain people in a certain religion, so you can’t blame them if they make laws to protect the remaining lives somehow. It is called fear and caution.

    I am sure that if the reverse was the case I.e a sect from Christianity religion or some other religion, bomb and kill Muslim people in their country, such stringent laws will also be passed and strictly adhered to; so let us not take this personal, it is an issue of security and giving people a sense of safety. Remember love conquers all at the end!!

  20. Factual

    August 25, 2016 at 2:21 am

    @ Oyinda..well said ….the truth is many people out there are self righteous bigots and are looking for people to blame so that they can feel good about their beliefs. None of them is a problem solver. They just dwell on worsening the situation through stigma, blaming no shaming without genuine or concrete knowledge. A lot of others are just gullible emotional followers. Many terrorists use the same method to recruit. They have no facts, they twist information and manipulate people’s sentiments in order to be able to brainwash them. Shame on them and anyone without weapons that act just like them.

    I had just written in a thread that the 2 world wars were not Muslim commandeered. Neither was the holocaust. Many genocides in history including many crusades were not Islam run….At every point in time in history, various groups have been notorious for inhumane crimes. This sad and terrible terrorism saga is all an aftermath of the Israeli Palestinian conflict/dictatorship regimes/ Arab Spring. Human beings will manipulate and kill each other for dominance and power under any usable circumstance be it racial or religious cleansing or what have you.

    The same Islam that was at the fore front of civilization once upon a time – a Muslim woman started the first ever university in Morocco ( refer to Guinness book of records/UNESCO) is the same Islam Boko haram is claiming ….its just people being manipulative and evil.

    This occurrence is a shame on France because it is unnecessary targeted discrimination. Unfortunately many innocent Muslims will suffer different forms of revenge from the general society because of these idiots. It’s a sad shame and a reality. The devil is using many people these days….from terrorists to the cyber bullies. Those who will change the world for the better are still out there. One shouldn’t lose hope. Stay kind, focused and well informed. Don’t allow people out there to cause a divide in basic humanity. Those who have turned everything into a competition from religion to territory.

  21. nunulicious

    August 25, 2016 at 5:48 am

    No matter how much the Europeans fight it, they really don’t have a choice…The maths is simple.
    The muslims have dispersed from their native homes, they must find a place to stay. Two things should be factored in…
    1) the Europeans are giving up religion. In the face of abundance they have forsaken/are forsaking “spirituality.” They forget that relationship with a deity gives people meaning/fills a void and gives people a purpose. In the absence of this relationship, people find purpose in something else…power/money or become susceptible to radicalism.

    2. the Europeans have chosen to raise their pets instead of breeding. If at all they breed, they have at best 2 children. They forget that for a population to sustain itself, each generation must have at least 4 children. The muslims on the other hand breed. and they breed fast. So therefore, what the radical muslims fail to to by violence, the others would do by simple mathematics. I give it a few more decades. You don’t really have a choice. Maths never lies.

    To see another perspective, interject Europeans with “christian”

  22. MIND OF GOD

    August 25, 2016 at 9:40 am

    MSHEEW….MY DEAR STAND WITH PEACE FORGET ALL DIZ STORIES LINE…MUSLIM SHOULD STAND AND TELL THE WORLD THEY ARE NOT TERRORISTS.MIND YOU ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY NOT THE ONLY RELIGION IN THE WORLD…OTHER RELIGIONS EXIST AND DONT CAUSE CRIME OR PANIC

  23. Oyinda

    August 25, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    @Na

    Hogwash? Really?! You read my comment and all you got is hogwash? So I singled out Dubai, you didn’t see the part where I mentioned Turkey, Egypt, Morrocco, Tunisia, Indonesia, etc. There are many other countries that I didn’t mention in Africa and even Nigeria with majority or significant muslim populations with out any hijab laws if you care to look beyond your nose. So you believe Saudi Arabia and Iran now represent all muslims and we get all our direction from them right? You do realize that they are a small fraction of muslims in the world right? How many of your muslim friends have tried to kill you because you disagreed with their religion? Do you even have any real or actual muslim friends? Or you just call them friends out of convenience? And throughout your life these are the only examples you have seen? really? please where have you been living? Clearly you only see what you want to see. I’m not here to change your mind just present another side of the story that often goes unsaid.

    If the > 1 billion muslims in the world chose to kill everyone who disagreed with their faith, then the world would have been blown to “smithereens” a long time ago. There won’t be any non-muslims in your so called ‘muslim countries’.

    You may choose to be wary of muslims that is your prerogative, I can only talk about myself and those I interact with none of whom have tried to kill anyone. The people that are intent on causing harm will not come in a form you fear or despise, they hardly ever do. How many of the attacks that have happened in France were from women wearing hijab? Do you actually now believe that forcing them to remove their religious garb will make them less successful if they choose to cause harm. You do realize that many of them are French citizens right? Or the goal is to make their country uncomfortable for them to stay in so they leave? where do they go? Or you want to propose some quarantine zone for muslims? And this is supposed to achieve greater peace?

    As @Factual said in his/her comment the holocaust in which over 6 million jews were killed was not caused by muslims, the 2 world wars were not caused by muslims, In fact majority of the pain, suffering and deaths that have occurred over the last 1400 years were not faught nor instigated by muslims, but please continue believing what you want to believe. I still wonder how these events will go down in the history books. It’s always interesting but sad to see history repeating itself. Even when we think we are more evolved than our forefathers.

    However my recommendation to everyone to expand their horizons, please read and do your research. Get your news from varied and objective sources. The objectivity may be hard to find, but if you care about the whole story and not just one side, then get you news from multiple sources and try to distill the reality from your deductions. How do you think the relative peace Europe has enjoyed over the last 6 decades was achieved? A lot of the turmoil you see in the Middle East and Africa today is a result of those decisions. The colonial and imperialist legacy did not only affect Africa, India and Pakistan, it affected the Middle East too. How were those countries formed? Why do most of them have dictators? Have you asked yourselves where did Al-Qaeda come from? or how ISIS became a thing? Its a shame the study of history seems to have died in Nigeria and most of our past history was written by the colonizers.

    There are some frontline documentaries that can help you digest some of this if you care to be informed. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/
    I’ll also recommend Alan Fromkin’s book, “A peace to end all peace” which gives historical accounts of the events that happened after the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

    I was recently in Nigeria and I got innocent questions about Islam from my non-muslim friends that made me realize that even in Nigeria a lot of people are not informed about the basics of Islam. I guess because there are so many muslims in Nigeria I just assumed some things are common knowledge. Living outside Nigeria has been great for my spiritual growth because I had to go out of my way to learn for myself. In Nigeria it’s easy and convenient to just be lazy and follow/listen to Imam/pastor. My advise to people of all faiths as with everything else, in life do your research and get all accounts then make an informed decision.

    Finally if you believe God has your back and he knows the beginning and end of all things then have no fear. And if you don’t believe in God then you definitely should believe in reason and rationality. Wolves are more effective in sheeps’ clothing no?

  24. I_I

    August 26, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    There is no how you would paint this, and tell me the religion of islam is not an inherently violent one. Which other religion stays brutalizing and killing in pretty much EVERY nation in the world – including Russia and China? Lets lose this P.C nonsense, it is what it is. There are good muslims yes, but Islam is a mostly violent and medieval ideology.

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