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Emmanuel Francis Kaduna AttackA 41-year-old carpenter, Francis Emmanuel Francis, almost lost his right eye on Tuesday following an attack on him by Muslim youths for not observing the Ramadan fast, PUNCH reports.

This is coming barely 5 days after the  alleged murder of a woman, Bridget Patience Agbaheme over “blasphemy” against Prophet Muhammad.

According to PUNCH, Francis, speaking to journalists said:

I went to buy wood to do some work. When I came back, I bought food to eat. As I was eating, about six Hausa boys came and asked me whether I was a Muslim or a Christian. I did not answer them. They asked me why I was not fasting. I told them that I am not a Muslim.

Before I know it, one of them slapped me. As I stood up, the rest came and surrounded me and started attacking me with knives. I didn’t know them. Nobody could come to my aid because of the type of dangerous knives they were carrying.

They used cutlasses, scissors and knives. I became unconscious; I don’t even know who brought me to the hospital.

The Kaduna state governor, Malam Nasir el-Rufai,  led a team of senior government officials, including the Deputy Governor, Architect Barnabas Yusuf Bala, to visit Francis who is recuperating at the St. Gerald’s Hospital. The governor comforted the victim and promised that the government will not allow any criminal to hide under any religious guise or to use religion as justification for violating the right of any citizen. el-Rufai said:

The government will not allow anyone to get away with any crime using his or her faith as an excuse. There is no compulsion in religion. It is a free country, and that means no imposition of faith or religious practices on anyone.

We sympathize with our fellow citizen, Francis Emmanuel. We have assured him that we will not allow anybody to violate his right, or that of any other citizen. The Kaduna State Government is resolute in its stand that all criminals, including those who try to hide under Christianity or Islam, will be tackled and prosecuted.

We have been given faith to live our lives in obedience to the Almighty, and to let that obedience manifest in our kindness to others, the honesty of our conduct and the consistency of our hard work. Care and compassion for others is one of the noblest ways of demonstrating love for God.

We implore everyone to do their duty to uphold peace and security in Kaduna State. We should not allow differences in faith to be a barrier to harmony or a cause for conflict. Nobody can impose the tenet of his faith on another person. The decision to observe any religious activity is the prerogative of the individual.

Let us all remain vigilant and report any suspicious activity to the security agencies.

Photo Credit: PUNCH

62 Comments

  1. 'Nita

    June 9, 2016 at 9:30 am

    What nonsense is all of this?????

    • Damilola

      June 9, 2016 at 6:39 pm

      Northerners muslims are truly getting out of control. They are slowly turning Abuja into a place where non muslims will be scared for their lives. If muslims care, their leaders and others should come out to condemn such evil act. Nigeria is not and will never be a muslim country. This is the reason I hate northerners in power, they have foolish entitlement.
      Islam is doctrine of lies and violence. They can disguise themselves as religion of peace all they want, their true heart is full of hatred and low tolerance for non muslims mostly christians.
      This muslim nigerian lady and I had issues. She supported a girl who is a mistress. So, we didnt talk for a long time bcos i was disappointed in the way she handled the situation. Now, she sent a message to me, its ramadan time so I ask for your forgiveness. I’m like to hell with your ramadan, so thats the only time you realize how wrong you are . Bunch of liars and pretenders

    • Passerby

      June 10, 2016 at 10:24 am

      @ Damilola, it’s so sad that through your lenses there is so much bias and bigotry and that makes you no different from these people…..

      Painting an entire people with one brush. What makes you different from the racist whites that see blacks in negative light?

      How many decent and knowledgable Muslims have you interacted with and asked questions about their faith? By choice because you would rather hate from your biased and bigoted spirit, you would rather insist on believing the negative lies and mis propagation….so sad for you.

      As someone said God has the final say. That is what counts.

  2. Apples

    June 9, 2016 at 9:32 am

    I’m not a Muslim hater o, but these guys are really blind mehn!!! The devil is in them! Chai!!!

    • Caligula

      June 9, 2016 at 11:31 am

      Why are these jobless fools violating people’s basic human rights? Kilo de? As in, someone needs to put a stop to the madness. My Christian brothers need to stay strapped too to defend themselves. Awon warey ???

  3. Concerned

    June 9, 2016 at 9:32 am

    The Imams in the north need to up their game and teach these people the accurate doctrines of Islam. I mean, who fights in the Holy month of Ramadan when the Islamic etiquette states that you shouldn’t even get angry or be involved in an argument.
    These people are acting like savages and ruining the image of the Muslim ummah. It is so wrong and despicable you wonder if there is another Islam being propagated . I pray that Allah conquers every agent and plot of shaytan. Amin

    • Luqman

      June 9, 2016 at 12:24 pm

      You are right about the Islamic etiquette. How do you even tell people about the beauty of Islam when someone keeps hearing all these devilish acts? Muhammed (P.B.U.H) won many souls to Islam due to his calmness, he even protected the jews that were living in Makkah.
      There was this particular old woman that used to throw trash at him on his way to morning prayer. The woman fell sick and he felt her absence, he paid the old woman a visit while coming back from prayer and prayed for her quick recovery. The woman was really astonished to see him despite the despicable things she had done.
      Quran 5 vs 82 says ‘you will find the nearest of them in affection to the Muslims, those who say, “We are Christians.” That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant.’ Maybe that particular verse is applicable to the Muslims in the SW cos they co-exist peacefully

    • Sitanda

      June 9, 2016 at 3:27 pm

      Big lie, Muhammad neither forgave nor forgot. He ordered the murder of a poet who composed songs mocking him

    • ElessarisElendil

      June 10, 2016 at 10:45 am

      LMFAO!!!!!!!!

      I’ll paraphrase by saying I respect the Prophet, man was the savviest political operator of his era. But Brother when he arrived in Yathrib, he initially played nice with the Jews hoping they would accept him as a Prophet of the Arabs. Initially during prayers all Muslims faced Jerusalem, until the Jews started to contradict his message. Boom, doctrine change, suddenly Islam becomes about restoring the original faith of Abraham which the Jews and Christians corrupted. Soon after he receives a revelation and changed the prayer position to face Mecca. The Jews were soon massacred and driven out of Yathrib, or as we now know it, Madinat al Nabi (Medina). Like I said savvy politician.

    • Peaches

      June 10, 2016 at 2:02 pm

      Peach… Christians are not Jews. Truth is Christians will never act like this. We never force people, we nevrr fight for God cux he can fight his battles I’m from d north n a proud Christian yes Muslims can b d most kindest n honest pple but deep down somewhere there is a very dark evil place.

    • wazobia

      June 9, 2016 at 2:10 pm

      @concerned, Imams are the one’s delivering the intolerance message to their ignorant & illiterate followers! The reason the Northern elite has purposely stifled education in that region is because they know that if the populace becomes as educated & enlightened as the rest of the other regions like the SE, SS then their reign as demi gods & hiding behind religion while committing their atrocities will be over!

    • simon

      June 9, 2016 at 5:03 pm

      It was Muhammad who first fought during ramadan in the Battle of Badr in 624 AD. A revelation from Allah decreed that Muslims could fight during Ramadan (Surah 2:217).
      Do you REALLY know Islam?

    • Luqman

      June 9, 2016 at 5:49 pm

      @Simon, you’re asking Concerned if he/she really knows Islam. You have to understand that Ramadan itself is actually a month out of 12 months of Hijra calendar. The first revelation was also revealed in the same month. It doesn’t mean that fasting was actually taken place then because Quran verses were revealed chronologically to fit particular occurrences. Fasting in the month of Ramadan started 18 months after 624 AD.

    • Concerned

      June 9, 2016 at 9:53 pm

      @ Simon please stop trolling. It’s in bad taste. You gain nothing by running another persons faith down.
      Why speak authoritatively about a religion you don’t even practice by cherry picking and misinterpreting verses.???

      Our main problem as Nigerians who practice religion is mis information, mis interpretation, lack of education and spiritual arrogance. People have become bigots and want to be right at all cost when you’re a mere mortal.

      Why misquote Surah 2:217???? If you care to know ( which I doubt) It’s a verse referring to the Muslims who were being terrorized and slaughtered by the pagans resulting in a battle of defense ( battle of Badr) ……Allah gives permission to defend when there is terror or persecution and NEVER towards anyone who isn’t terrorizing as Surah 2:193 states.

      I hope you know that it means a Muslim soldier in the Nigerian army MUST still go to battle against Boko Haram even in the month of Ramadan and cannot use it as an excuse not to fight…..understood?

      Now simple logic; If Mohammed peace be upon him was unforgiving and slaughtered everyone that insulted him or was non Muslim, how on earth was he able to spread Islam? Wouldn’t he have killed everyone by now? At some point many of the Muslims were non Muslims so how come there is a large population of Muslims in his home country of Saudi Arabia and even in the world?…Afterall they were pagans before Islam.

      Let Allah/God/Jehovah himself who has the dominion decide who he will admit to heaven…..only He knows who the true believers and followers are….

    • ElessarisElendil

      June 10, 2016 at 10:54 am

      Islam was able to spread in the Arab peninsula due to the peculiarities of its clan politics. Long story short, the Arabs have always fell in line behind the big dog, once he was able to confront and deter Mecca (former big dog), he assumed its position. On his death when the tribes that initially pledged allegiance to him tried to rebel, Abu Bakr brought them back with the swor…..ehn I mean “peaceably”. In other to prevent internecine wars the Khalifas unleashed then against the weakened Roman and Sassanians.

      Now as for Islam’s spread, its simple. They didn’t kill everybody because infidels needed to pay protection money to them. The infidels not being idiots escaped paying protection money by converting. This is obviously a condensed version but you get the gist.

      Fact is that Islam has always been spread initially by the sword. That its doctrine encourages directed violence, kinda like another desert religion (Judaism). It is NOT a religion of peace, that moniker belongs to the Jains whose extremists go naked so as not to hurt cotton. Most importantly, its guiding tenet, Sharia is not conducive to modern life. What baffles me is why more normally reasonable muslims do not agree. Sharia law brings out the worst in you guys.

    • Say no to spiritual arrogance

      June 10, 2016 at 8:46 pm

      Oh really political expert EllessarisElendil?

      And will you say the same about Christianity and the crusaders and the tons of people who were burnt alive for heresy?

      Or characterize Christianity by the words of Jesus in Luke 19:27 “But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”
      Please give your self righteousness a rest……the problem with religion is how it is interpreted and practiced and spiritual arrogance.
      Throughout history people from all religions have had their fair share of notoriety.
      God knows who is truly for him.

    • Truth

      June 11, 2016 at 6:59 am

      EllessarisElendil so what is the difference between you and these men/, Boko haram? Just like them, you’re spreading your own version of Islam taught to you by someone / somewhere that has brainwashed you in order to spread hatred and cause trouble and disunity.
      Other than being an anonymous troll whose weapon is a computer and not a gun, you’re pretty much the same….adding no value and causing trouble….so also are many others on this thread ….hate and intolerance mongerers and steorotypers……you’re all part of the problem.

  4. Lois

    June 9, 2016 at 9:35 am

    Please correct the phrase up there “…the Kano state governor, Mallam Nadir El-Rufai…”. It is Kaduna state. You need an editor. Minimal errors like this could be quite embarrassing

  5. Ijedinma

    June 9, 2016 at 9:36 am

    Gradually, this country is turning to something else. This is so sad. I wish him speedy recovery.

  6. Tonye

    June 9, 2016 at 9:38 am

    This is horrible. Nigeria is a lawless country

  7. Nonye

    June 9, 2016 at 9:39 am

    At BN Editor, Mallam El Rufai is the Kaduna state governor.

    “The Kano state governor, Malam Nasir el-Rufai,”

  8. zibaintl

    June 9, 2016 at 9:44 am

    God save us…so I must fast even wen am not a Muslim…despicable.

  9. Benson Ossai

    June 9, 2016 at 9:49 am

    Some Abokis need mental status examination and then quarantine.Some of them are Toxic to the society.

  10. Ethio

    June 9, 2016 at 9:52 am

    islam is deeply rooted in intolerance. I’m not tribalistic, islam is just not it.
    95% terrorism-islam,
    100% intolerance- islam,
    100% sexism- islam,
    100%hypocrisy- islam,
    90%-honor killings – islam, tueh !
    I’d rather remain atheist than a Muslim

    • zhara

      June 10, 2016 at 5:33 am

      To each his own

    • Truth

      June 11, 2016 at 7:00 am

      And you Ethio are deeply rooted 100% in ignorance and hatred…..no value added to make things better.

  11. cheryl

    June 9, 2016 at 10:08 am

    horrible behaviours from horrible ppl, lived with them for more dan 20 yrs, yet dey still see u as strangers and abominable human, dey call u “arnaye” and “kafiri” jst cos u dnt av same faith, decendants of slaves, decendants of ishmael, violent souls, all this boils down to what they are being taught, teach dem tollerance so there will b peace, mba, instead dey r beign taught aw to slaughter those not in same faith with dem, cant forget year 2000 and 2002 crises in KD, sad memories, and d one in 2002 was also during what was supposed to b their holy month, tssshhheeewwww, see if u experience any mortern crises, u wuld want to hate these ppl for life, buh our own faith taught us forgiveness and tollerance, abegs

  12. free browsing

    June 9, 2016 at 10:27 am

    this people are pathetic

  13. Rose

    June 9, 2016 at 10:28 am

    What rubbish, when the Christians were conducting their 21 days fast and observing lent did any christian beat or kill a muslim because they didnt partake in their fast, El Rufai and other Northern Governors should better do something fast before another christian will fall a victim.

  14. Nonsense

    June 9, 2016 at 10:59 am

    All Muslims are not terrorist but all terrorist are Muslims. Does that make sense?

    • arikeagbe

      June 9, 2016 at 12:41 pm

      Actually there are fundamentalists in different religions. Joseph Kony tried to force Uganda and other African countries to obey the Ten Commandments and killed many people in the process. It just seems like only Muslims are terrorists because Islamist terrorists are the most prolific.

    • Ada

      June 9, 2016 at 2:14 pm

      Pls go and sit down in the gutter biko…ona koyeli…mtcccheeeww

  15. Jennifer

    June 9, 2016 at 11:07 am

    Good talk, am not a Muslim but i was born and raised in Muslim communities (sokoto) so quiet and peaceful in those years i know the religion i pray with my friends they care so much about me up till date i go to church and they come to my church for the harvest but now, GOD i dont know wat is going on, illiteracy lack of education is killing this local people who claim they love ALLAH ALMIGHTY. They rape, they kill, they kidnapp, they steal every evil they do and they claim they are fighting for ALLAH. I DONT THINK SO.

    • Concerned

      June 10, 2016 at 10:32 pm

      Jennifer bless your heart….we need more people like you to be the voice of reason and unity. Many people here are more concerned with judging, hating and bigotry…..and I’m sure the Muslims they know personally have nothing in common with these people. It’s a shame indeed. How can we solve a problem through judgements and condemnation of an entire group of people??? God is a witness.

  16. Eva

    June 9, 2016 at 11:31 am

    Na small small e dey start. First na woman dem kill, now na man. And all their leaders are suddenly mute. Nobody is vocally condemning the act. All this because they tell them in their mosques, that they are superior, and one of theirs is the president so they can get away with lawlessness……yes they tell them all sort of crap. I blame the rest of us, who pamper them and dance around them “to avoid trouble”. Something this crazy happens and you hear national leaders talking about religious tolerance, and other BS. Get your s**t together ooo, before this thing turns into a war.

  17. Ms jazz

    June 9, 2016 at 11:51 am

    You make so much sense @nonsense. Only a deep person will understand that statement. This is going to get out of hand if these people are not dealt with severely and quickly

  18. Noms

    June 9, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    SMH…. these muslims sure have a good sense of obedience and taking instructions. If their leaders teach them to go the other way, I am very positive they will obey.
    Our Jesus is a peace loving somebody .

  19. Beeeee

    June 9, 2016 at 12:26 pm

    BN, sorry o, did you say alleged murder of Bridget? She was not allegedly murdered please, she was murdered. You can talk about the alleged suspects but you can’t call her murder alleged because we all know she was murdered.

  20. Zarah

    June 9, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    This is just ridiculous. I am a muslim and find it completely disgusting tht this “so called” muslims would act is such a barbaric way. It is because of people like this, that make others define muslims as violent. Even Islam frowns as such act clearly these people do not follow their religion to do this because someone is eating. Fasting is not only about abstaining from food but also refraining from all vice and evils. May God help us all and i wish Mr Francis speedy recovery.

  21. Oma

    June 9, 2016 at 12:43 pm

    Muslims, Muslims, Muslims, talk to yourselves. You keep saying you have a religion of peace, but from Nigeria to Timbuktu all we see is the killing and maiming your brothers and sisters carry out in the name of religion, eba ara yin soro o. It is either there is something intrinsically wrong with your Islamic doctrine or there is a divide between the real thing and what is being taught, world-over. It is time for some sort of conference, you can do it nationally, then go internationally, but you have to do something about your ‘erring’ brethren, we are not talking of a one or two ooooo

  22. Moi

    June 9, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    This news is very very false i was there when it happened he was brutalised by his own cutlass the guys weren’t even hausas. Kai na wa for naija and religious hatred we just want to believe it’s true

    • Dona

      June 9, 2016 at 2:47 pm

      Oga abeg shed more light on this. “brutalized by his own cutlass”. The guys weren’t Hausa. Who were they and why did they brutalize him “by his own cutlass”. Please speak since you were there.

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    • jaybird

      June 9, 2016 at 2:49 pm

      So, what really happened? That got the governor to go and pay him a visit? #Rubbish#

    • Mara

      June 9, 2016 at 5:55 pm

      Oya, if you were there, what actually happened?? Why didn’t you give your eyewitness account to the Governor of the state who you can clearly see at the man’s hospital bedside? Please don’t come and lie here abeg.

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    • Ajala & foodie

      June 9, 2016 at 7:19 pm

      @ Moi, how does one get brutalized by an inanimate object? Did the cutlass move of its own accord? Was he in anyway confronted by Muslims for not fasting? If the answer to that question is a yes, then there is no basis for your comment, even if he somehow fell on his cutlass during said confrontation. It is still as result of religious intolerence that should not be taken place so yes it makes his attackers guilty. The point being, there is freedom to practice what you choose to in this country and even in said religion, whether I choose to fast or not, is no one’s business.
      Secondly, you claim they are not hausa’s but did not mention anything about the religious affiliations of his alleged attackers then try to play it off that the situation had nothing to do with religious bigotry. Your account appears questionable for these reasons and just so we are clear ethnicity and religious affiliations are not the same. This in reference to your concluding sentence: ” This men are not even hausas. Kia na wa for naija and religious hatred”

    • Ndidi

      June 9, 2016 at 10:29 pm

      So he went to buy food, came back to eat, brought out his own cutlass and brutalized himself. Some non Hausa guys showed up, and u saw everything….

  23. john

    June 9, 2016 at 12:55 pm

    it is a complete deceit for people to continue to exonerate islam from violence and terrorism…..its crystal clear

  24. Prince

    June 9, 2016 at 2:00 pm

    What do you expect from a religion that knows nothing apart from violence. Look at the world today, check where you have troubles and those troubling them. Why must they all be linked to just one religion.
    We have lots of religion in the world but this one derive joy in killing and causing anguish.

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  25. Sitanda

    June 9, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    Big lie, Muhammad neither forgave nor forgot any slight to his person. He once ordered the murder of a poet who composed songs denigrating him…

  26. Id

    June 9, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    In Muslim countries you cannot eat in public while fasting is going on butNigeria is NOT a Muslim country. And it’s not against the law to eat when others are fasting. Christians fast and others won’t even know they are fasting. I am afraid for Nigeria.

  27. concerned

    June 9, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    I’m so grateful that it is God that has the final at and will judge us as individuals and not as a group so all the negative comments about Islam don’t phase me.

    For those who care to learn and who know better that we should all unite in peace against people who don’t know better regardless of their religion
    feel free to ask questions and educate yourselves

    For Muslims out there who need answers and want to educate mis informed Muslims see the link below:

    islamnewsroom.com/news-we-need/329-yusuf-estes-correcting-quran-misquotes

  28. concerned

    June 9, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    God that has the final SAY* ( typo)

  29. Ndidi

    June 9, 2016 at 10:33 pm

    Era of change… Here we come.
    Bet El-rufai will investigate and investigate and investigate, and set up committee, and investigate until the movie fades into oblivion. No arrest or penalty will be paid by any Muslim.
    Our political class are like kids playing with fire, thinking it won’t burn them. They imagine their mansions and money will save them. God will not let us see that fire in this Nigeria.

  30. nnenne

    June 10, 2016 at 1:36 am

    i think everything starts from home.
    A child loved and taken care of at home will have no time for this.
    Let’s preach monogamy,less children, educated and empowered mothers. That should be the beginning.
    Then imams should should go for re-orientation. Times have changed, they need to change with it.

  31. Tosin

    June 10, 2016 at 7:24 am

    If these acts are being ignored, I am very curious why. It seems to me like they should be punished. I’m sure fasting with anger is not fasting. I’m sure beheading old women is still murder. Waiting for something to happen to the perpetrators.

  32. Christy

    June 10, 2016 at 8:33 am

    This killings have to stop already… God please help our country. This is very sad. Humans should not fight on behalf of God.

  33. Fact

    June 10, 2016 at 10:29 am

    Some people just need someone to hate regardless of their faith….and many of them are commentators on this thread.
    If they were as unexposed as these men, they will do the same and even worse.
    So many myopic views with no solution.
    We need a country with better education!

  34. Expert

    June 10, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    Guys, I am saddened by the death of Mrs Agbahime who was brutally murdered in cold blood in Kano. Murder is murder and mob killing based on whatever sentiments must be put to an end. It is not enough to convoke a meeting to pacify the Husband, CAN etc. Justice should be served. I want to see the murderers sentenced to death by hanging/firing squad. This is the only way these barbarians will be scared of killing people. Our security and justice system is so lousy to allow all these murderers go scot-free. Mr. Emmanuel in Kaduna has lost an eye because some barbaric Muslim riff raff decided to beat him up as he was eating during fasting. E concern Dem? Emmanuel na Muslim? Even if Emmanuel na Muslim, na by beating e go change? I want those riff-raffs to be equally punished and probably sent to life imprisonment/given death sentence , I think there are a lot of Murderers and brigands in the fold of our Northern Muslims as they are ready to kill and wreak havoc without provocation in the name of their faith. Why is that no Muslim group has beaten up people in Aba, Lagos, Abeokuta, Calabar etc that are having lunch in this period of Ramadan? . I am a Christians and we are not perfect, we are sinners and do not claim to be righteous but our Bible has never instructed to kill our Neighbor or to wreak havoc. There is a lot to be desired . There is freedom of worship in Nigerian and nobody should force his/her religion on another person. There is a lot of hypocrisy in the way Islam is practiced in Northern Nigeria. There is a great need for reformation. Many Islamic Countries are more peaceful than Northern Nigeria. Pls these are my thoughts. Feel free to share yours and remember that hardwork pays while destruction comes from demented/shallow mind.

  35. ElessarisElendil

    June 12, 2016 at 11:21 am

    *Sigh* @Say no to spiritual arrogance:

    And will you say the same about Christianity and the crusaders and the tons of people who were burnt alive for heresy: Exactly, the fact that you feel a need to compare the acts of the medieval age to the modern era should show you your problem. Christians have largely reconciled themselves to the modern state and secular law. Further since you’re replying my comment on Christianity’s spread. It was spread largely by missionaries, that is a fact. Christians have spent more times killing fellow Christians than other religions. The Crusades were merely a delayed reply to Islamic aggression against the Roman Empire. The wars were to reclaim Jerusalem from the Muslims and Christians soon returned to our favourite past time of killing fellow Christians. However ever since the treaty of Westphalia, Christian religious wars have drawn down, we’ve evolved. Deviations from that norm are rightly condemned, not pussyfooted around.

    Or characterize Christianity by the words of Jesus in Luke 19:27 “But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’: Characterize away. But lets take a look, how enemies of christ did the apostles bring before him and slaughter? when Peter tried to kill the Roman servant who tried to arrest Christ, what happened?? Now shall we compare with Prophet Muhammed’s record? not just his words but his actions. You’ll also notice in my comment, at no point did I try to assume moral superiority, if anything I gave that to the Jains. My central thesis remains, religions are largely the product of their areas of foundation and that religious law should have no place in a republic. At this point you’re not replying me, merely tossing up stock counter arguments.

    Please give your self righteousness a rest……the problem with religion is how it is interpreted and practiced and spiritual arrogance: What self righteousness??? I doubt you’re reading my comments. I’m merely pointing out historical facts,.

    Throughout history people from all religions have had their fair share of notoriety: Agreed. Religion tends to bring out the worst in we humans, emphasising our need to compete and our fear of the other, which is why I reiterate, religious laws have no place in a republic. So maybe rather than attacking the person making a sane argument, we should focus on the people who refuse to see this truth.

    God knows who is truly for him: Agreed, if only humans would stop fighting his wars.

  36. ElessarisElendil

    June 12, 2016 at 11:34 am

    EllessarisElendil so what is the difference between you and these men/, Boko haram???: I don’t know, I’m educated, they believe education is evil, I bath daily, don’t live in a forest, have never killed a human being or raped one. You know the little things.

    Just like them, you’re spreading your own version of Islam taught to you by someone: Version???? My “version” is history. Next you’ll tell me Prophet Muhammed didn’t attack the Meccans at Badr, that Ali didn’t fight a civil war against Aisha and Ibn Zubayr at the battle of the camel and that Yazid I didn’t destroy the Kabbah trying to crush anti Ummayad rebels. LMFAO. Study biko!

    “somewhere that has brainwashed you in order to spread hatred and cause trouble and disunity.”: I’m spreading hatred??? by pointing out the truth?? Okay. Next you’ll blame me for the Shia/Sunni split.

    Other than being an anonymous troll whose weapon is a computer and not a gun, you’re pretty much the same: Except for the whole, raping, bombing and killing. Solid logic you’re using.

    adding no value and causing trouble: I agree. I’m largely here to amuse myself and I’ll admit to stoking the flames a little. But the bigger problem is I haven’t had to lie to do so. Think it through, if the cause you’re defending is so sordid, I can cause problems by telling the truth. The problem isn’t me.

    so also are many others on this thread: Again I don’t think you’re reading my comments. I merely clarify which thanks to my being anonymous (largely) I can do without fear of some extremist chopping off my head.

    hate and intolerance mongerers and steorotypers: What is with everybody and the same stock arguments. Point out a single error in my comments. Did the prophet not do the things I said he did? was Medina not called Yathrib? Don’t infidels pay jizya (AKA non-Muslim protection money)?? Come on!! you’re reaching.

    you’re all part of the problem: I get you. Me pointing out historical facts about Islam-Problem. You condemning me for pointing out facts instead of the people distorting your faith with violence=solution.

    Solid logic.

    • Concerned

      June 12, 2016 at 5:41 pm

      Lol! Yeah right, facts by whose teaching or authority? Narratives that feed your bias and bigotry ofcourse ….Keep on ranting.

      You have done absolutely nothing productive or positive on this thread but promote hate. Just trolling and making it about yourself and the bitterness you carry on the inside.

      I feel sorry for you because you made such an effort to respond as vindictively as you could and it is pure evidence of the reflection of who you really are…..Many claim to be educated not knowing what true education is.

      Try to change your ways to be more peace promoting and positively productive if you really want to emulate Christ……I’m done.

  37. debz

    June 12, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    If only Trump can become president of Nigeria and help us build that Wall!!! Its needed! Its time to separate Hausa’s from the rest of us! And any non Hausa muslim is welcome to join them at the other side of the fence!! since we are all ‘infidels” please go your way and let us go ours! That way any non muslim in their territory will understand that they are muslims and you MUST abide by their rules in other to live among them! Its really that simple!!! SEPARATE US!!! AHN AHN NONSENSE

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