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Should Nigerian Churches Pay Tax? World’s Richest Pastor David Oyedepo answers Reuters, “For what?”

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David Oyedepo - August 2014 - BN News - BellaNaija.com 01Last week, the internet was abuzz with the Forbes revelation that 5 out of the world’s top 10 richest pastors are Nigerian – click here if you missed it.

Sitting at the top of the list with $150 million is David Oyedepo, Bishop of Living Faith Church, better known as “Winners Chapel”.

Reuters examined this phenomenon in a recent article, stating,

“…”megachurches”… form a huge, untaxed sector of Africa’s top economy. Hundreds of millions of dollars change hands each year in these popular Pentecostal houses of worship.”

For the article, they spoke with the Bishop, who had the following to say about his estimated net worth and if churches should be taxed, (a recent topic at the National Conference),

About Forbes Estimation of his Net Worth

“For me, to have fortune means someone who has what he needs at any point in time. I don’t see myself as having $150 million stacked up somewhere. Whatever way they found their figures, I am only able to say I am blessed by the Lord.”

Should Nigerian Churches be Taxed?

“There is no single government input on this premises,” (BN Editor’s Note: referring to Canaanland, the church’s headquarters & Covenant University campus) 

Oyedepo told Reuters ,“We supply our water, we make our roads, then you … say: ‘Let’s tax them’. For what?”

The Reuters article claimed Jonathan will not address the tax issue before the upcoming elections, “it is debatable whether President Goodluck Jonathan, who is close to several megapastors, would risk upsetting these influential men and their hefty congregations with a fat tax bill.”

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BN-ers what’s your take? Should churches pay tax? Or do they need all their income to continue to contribute to our society (jobs, schools etc) ?

 

88 Comments

  1. God's favorite

    October 13, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    Exceeding grace. Heavenly Father, bless my papa more and more, IJN. Heaven on earth

    • obia

      October 13, 2014 at 6:59 pm

      Wow! Wow! And Wow! Open the eyes of their hearts Lord.

    • ak

      October 14, 2014 at 1:23 pm

      LOL as Bruno will say, “Pastor worshipper”

      You can smell the pride of Oyedepo from a million miles away… No respect for government, but then again, why will you have respect for a President who belittled his office by kneeling in public to a religious officer?

      Nigeria has such a long way to go.

  2. tekenafaith

    October 13, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Even our lord jesus paid his tax so why won’t churches do…

    • David

      October 13, 2014 at 10:21 pm

      Jesus paid the tax under duress because the same WICKED Herod that killed John d Baptist was ruling so only WICKED dictators without d fear of God want to go into Holy sanctuary to look for revenue when they need more money to embezzle.GOD MUST JUDGE THEM

    • Idomagirl

      October 16, 2014 at 6:40 am

      When Jesus was asked about taxes didn’t he say ‘give to Caeser what is Ceaser’s”? Correct me if I’m wrong.

    • sona

      October 14, 2014 at 4:50 am

      I understand your views. But I need to say something.. Truth? We don’t pay tax in Nigeria..it is the sincere truth. Especially private businesses. We do not pay one dot of tax.. The reason why your celebs have ao much money is because they aren’t taxed… Yep. They are not. No matter how one may feel about the churches having so much, we must be fair. And also not be blinded by hate (not saying you are).. Most of the churches are self sufficient. They do not receive one iota of support from the govt.in terms of grant etc. The wealth you are seeing or that is being proclaimed is accumulated wealth over the years. Yes!! From the days of nothing.. Look at the so called wealthiest men of God. They’ve been toiling and working for over 30years. They sacrificed alot to get to where they are.. You can even imagine from the days of military rule when the northern rulers where frustrating…. These men are really good at managing the finances of their ministries…. So you see this wealth you are seeing didn’t just come. Its over 30 years of real hard work and effective finance management. Trust me. There is no way they can get to where they are by being frivolous… That’s why they can have schools and continue to build more schools and stuff. Its not magic… Lol.. The purpose for tax is to provide services, basic amenities for the people.. Pls in Nigeria. Which basic amenity have you enjoyed to the fullest. Many people have their own water supply. Light is scarce!!! Basic social security for the Nigerian people. GOVT IS REALLY NOT DOING MUCH… look with the money we have we can’t even find chibok girls.!!!! Choi!! That’s is the kind of Govt we have.. Now I don’t care how much hate anyone has but would you allow someone come and reap where they did not sow?? Go to Canaan Land and see. Redeem Camp Grounds is a good one. These are self sufficient organizations Nothing there is provided or supported by the govt. In the west, the school system is majorly sponsored by the govt… The citizens attend school on student loans and grants given by the govt.. The govt hasn’t done anything like that.. Nothing remotely close. The schools can shut down for a year and nothing will happen… That’s the kind of govt we have.. Sorry but asking the church to pay tax because of the wealth of the church is only asking the govt to rob their pockets and that’s unfair… If that’s the way.. Then lets tax all our celebs and also all our Mosques etc.. Yes. That’s being fair and no “religious” groups most be exempted then.. Even church of Mormon, Jehovah Witness, Grail Message, Eckankar, and the Catholic Church most also pay. That will be fair. And pls all our celebs most PAY too. No one wants the govt to rob their pocket. So why ask the govt to rob churches? Besides last I checked. With more money, the church can move forward and not be stagnant. So I really don’t get why people are hating on the wealth of the church…

    • chu

      October 14, 2014 at 2:07 pm

      GBAM

  3. Leah

    October 13, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    Yes they should pay taxes! And not just Nigerian Churches, it should be global for all religious organizations. Million dollar mansions, private jets, the catholic church has paid over 2.2 billion in child sex abuse cases. Meanwhile a poor mother in a village in any third world country is mandated to pay her church dues or faces the consequence. The Tax exempt was be based on non profit claim, but we all know that isn’t the case.

    • David

      October 13, 2014 at 10:33 pm

      Leah ,I hope this is not envy.I had d opportunity to milk d Government but didn’t, not because I’m a good citizen but bcos of what d church planted into me.D government doesn’t have d capacity to do this.So the government should pay tithe to churches rather than milking them

    • Rook

      October 14, 2014 at 2:18 pm

      On point dude. Jesus paid tax. Not his ministry. No one is saying Oyedepo, his wife, all their Children and great great grand grand grand children should not pay their PERSONAL INCOME taxes. But if their organisation is exempt (which it is in this case) so be it. It wasn’t. Oyedepo dt instituted exemption for tax purposes to the Christaindom. It has been like that before they born his father. So y sunddenly (out of whatever reason) say Churches should start paying tax (maybe because some pastors are f***kingly wealthy even more than many political thieves???) And if other adjoining organisations of these churches such as schools and hospitals can be directly traceable to the church in its form and mode of operation (i.e not-for-profit organisations) then, it is part of the church and should be exempt! If it is clear that such organisations are profit making ventures, then taxes should be paid by those organisations. At least a yardstick can be made to measure d degree to which such organisation are profitable or non-profitable as the case may be. Beside, forbes magazine forgot to add that the poorest pastors in the world can also be found in Nigeria (being a poor country). Nobody is talking about that one o. And as to how these wealthy pastors accumulated these wealth…well one thing I do know about tithe and offering is that they are all free-will things even if they are clear commandment from God according to the Bible (whether it’s found in the old testament or not) Even God will not yank off your head just because u didn’t pay tithe. So if u give a pastor or a church or God your offering or tithe as the case may be, it’s because you simply wish to give or u find a reason to, not because the pastor will kill u if u don’t. Therefore calling them thieves is simply unfair. They did not force anyone to give!!! They are simply people who have strived to be rich in a poor country. It’s not their fault. Everybody wants to get out of the rot of the country. abi no b so?

  4. Author Unknown

    October 13, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    The real question is whether we want this money retained by these pastors, or end up in the private coffers of Nigerian politicians.

  5. No Wonder

    October 13, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    But the synagogues in the bible paid temple tax nah. When the pharisees came to tempt him and asked if it was lawful to pay the temple tax, he replied that they should give unto Caesar what belong to Caesar! Na because our government dey f..k up, if they were very effective in public policies and implementation, una for dey pay that tax.

  6. RO2

    October 13, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    whatever the argument is for evading tax is never a justification all. For the fact that Nigeria created an enabling environment for their businesses to grow and succeed is enough reason for them to pay their Taxes. if they build all their roads, water supply and electricity what about their members that contributed to the commonwealth. In a country where there is chaos and wars and other unrest imagine the impact that has on the economy. Nigeria is not Switzerland or Monaco. I beg make una pay una Tax jor.

    • sona

      October 14, 2014 at 4:55 am

      Are those members paying taxes?? Look those members aren’t complaining so I don’t get why people are so angry. It is those members that keep contributing. P.S. The wealth of a church is a reflection of the people in it. Trust me a billion church is made of many (not just one) multimillionaires .. So that statement of people being poor in these churches is not a fact at all #just saying #Irespectyourviews

    • Idomagirl

      October 16, 2014 at 6:43 am

      There are a lot of poor people in the church.

  7. slice

    October 13, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    i don’t believe offerings should be taxed cause for one they are based on should be based on post tax income (ie the person giving the offering already paid tax on the money) and also bc of separation of church and state. However, all other unrelated income should be taxed. Money from selling books, from universities, from restaurants and hotels on the premises, etc should all be taxed. because that’s the law of the land

    • separation of church and state

      October 14, 2014 at 2:30 am

      Ma’im/Sir, I read this your comment, read others, closed bellanaija and just couldn’t in good faith let it rest. I dont think to date, we are able to quite discern the intent of the phrase that Thomas Jefferson culled as the “wall of separation of church and state.” Secondly, Nigeria, although very similar to the era of the Jeffersons’, whereby the society was very religious, cannot be compared. Every calamity, GEJ says lets pray to God. How then are you able to plainly request or scream for separation of church and state when even the President cant go without calling God? Granted, the US coins has, “in God we trust”, and when you go to court, you are required to swear on the bible, and of course the party of family values, the “Repuglicant” run on the platform of religion, the US still requires churches and pastors to pay taxes. You are protected by the first and 14th amendment for freedom to exercise religion & beliefs. As long as you earn a pay from the service you provide, you pay taxes on it. Even ashawo should pay tax. These nigerian pastors are In essence earning a salary for the services they offer, the get paid and should therefore pay their taxes like every law abiding citizen. Taxes are no fun, but so long as the road you use to get to your church was built by the government (through tax payers), the water you use is from the government, the light you use, whatever it is, you didn’t do it by yourself. So as responsible citizens of Nigeria, please pay your tax. Give Caesars things to Caesar, even Jesus said it. So don’t let us start cherry picking what part of the bible the pastors and deacons are exempt from, we are one Nigeria, let us pay our fair share for the betterment of the country. Now GEJ should grow some balls, stop fraternizing with these pastors, and start taxing all those imams, mosque, church, synagogue, including babalawo and the Nigerian witches association. If you’re going to fly at night as a witch, at least some areas built by the government can serve as landmark to tell you how far you’ve flown or maybe they use GPS. Either way, Uncle Nigerian Sam says, cough it up and pay your damn tax.

    • Sunita

      October 14, 2014 at 1:04 pm

      OMG!!!! Funniest comment in a very long time!

    • BlueEyed

      October 15, 2014 at 7:13 am

      I love this comment, plain facts in hind sight. Dear religious leaders, we commend the effort you have put into building your ministries but in the normal scheme of things, the people in your ministry built it for you, those same people are tax payers who in one way or the other have received income from the gorvenment, therefore the money in which you used to build the schools, roads and church buildings did not just appear In your bank account, so therefore you are liable to pay tax

  8. Chukwuma

    October 13, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    Until then! But Bella, you are funny oh, lwkmd. Building school and all that, the school na free?
    There is God oh!
    God is watching from a distance?
    Thats why someone ask me, where is the Heaven, here or up? God pass them.

    • slice

      October 13, 2014 at 9:48 pm

      other people build schools too. plus the school is not a non profit. it’s expensive stuff and he makes money from it. My problems with Oga Bishop is he sees himself as above the law. You’d have to think that to slap someone in the name of Jesus. and i’m not afraid of speaking against false doctrine.

    • sona

      October 14, 2014 at 5:19 am

      The slap and Tax are 2 different things.. He’s a man and out of anger did something.. Besides I don’t know anybody that will say “I am a witch for Jesus” dat won’t get slapped… Even Cele people will flog you.. Ad much as I can say the slap shouldn’t have happened. Dat girl coming out to say I’m a witch for Christ was looking for trouble.. And if you are a passionate christian and someone says that to you, you’d be close to doing so!!! Its really offensive to say such a thing…

    • ceetoo

      October 14, 2014 at 8:38 am

      @Sona, so what is the difference with you and Boko Haram? Boko bombs you slap all becos someone says something you both dont like about your religion and cos you are passionate you inflict pain… howbeit a child. Please make another excuse for that slap. I am a very passionate christian myself but please let us not justify nonsense. If Tell me it was out of anger that might make sense… not justify it but at least make sense… Cheers

    • Blessing

      October 14, 2014 at 9:26 am

      SLICE or whatever your sick name is, First of all you’re a goat. Second of all, he slapped someone who confessed she was a “witch for Jesus”. Thirdly be careful so you won’t be sliced. Ignorant one!

    • Luqman

      October 14, 2014 at 10:40 am

      @Blessing.. why did you have to call someone a goat bcos she had a contrary view with yours? you don’t have to descend to that level, you are allowed to share your own opinion without using foul languages. Who are you to tell if someone is in hell fire? Jesus Christ even said that “narrow is the way” in the day of reckoning. People are just trying their best to serve God according to their capability and it is left to God to accept or nullify our deeds.

      Some people that we have repudiated will even make the same heaven before some righteous people insight of us. Go and the read the story of Pharaoh why it was difficult for Moses to conquer him at the early stage despite his disobedience to God (in spite of his arrogance, he would kneel down before his mum while eating) and God was using that sustain him may be he might repent. God is not just a story teller, all those stories are there for us to learn from those people before us.

    • MC

      October 14, 2014 at 11:30 am

      @Sona…..”I am at witch for Jesus”…..what does that even mean?
      I soooo wouldn’t be offended. confused, yes. Offended, no.

  9. S!

    October 13, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    Why Not?

  10. Mohammad

    October 13, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    He is clearly illiterate and has no knowledge on what taxation does for society. So what if the government has not provided water or electricity? Is it not meant to start from somewhere? Taxes are collected to allow for the provision of equality. Your “business” exists in a society that has allowed for it to thrive. Taxation is your way of giving back to that society.
    Na to acquire and build schools that your congregation can not afford to send their own children to na im una go dey do. Don’t worry. The revolution is coming and Nigerians are getting wise. Remember what guillotines were used for in France in the late 1700s!

    • keisha

      October 13, 2014 at 8:27 pm

      Please watch your tone.

    • Carliforniabawler

      October 13, 2014 at 9:11 pm

      Lmao!! Chai!! I doubt if you would issue such a STERN warning if the comment were directed to your immediate family member! Anyways sha, if he’s your ‘papa’, I guess I can see why you are taking it so personal….just remember say “Baba Ijo mo iye omo to bi” (not bothered to translate jare) ….
      Shey his kids are pastors as well now, that gives them immunity against people complaining when they inherit the millions of dollars. They would automatically be anointed men, against which no man shall speak, they will become your new papa…o ga ju!!
      And to Bros Mohammad, na wah oh! your name, its ‘assumed’ implication’, together with a beheading device in the same statement…makes for such a lovely stereotypical cocktail! 😀

    • Sunita

      October 14, 2014 at 1:08 pm

      Or else what? He will be struck dead by lightening or you would find a way to allude every bad thing that has happened in his life to putting ‘a man of God’ in his place? Take several seats

    • Deborah

      October 13, 2014 at 8:30 pm

      What do you know?

    • Busarni

      October 13, 2014 at 9:42 pm

      @mohammad; you shouldn’t be commenting on this topic. Do not tempt me to give you a stupid reply; nonsense. Tell your imams to pay their tax.

    • Mohammad

      October 14, 2014 at 12:16 am

      Why should I not comment? I am not a Moslem and don’t have an imam! Besides it wouldn’t change a damn thing about the comment I made. And for the record, I believe mosques and other religious institutions should pay taxes too.

    • sona

      October 14, 2014 at 5:14 am

      Mr. Mohammad. Covenant Uni school fees is one of the cheapest. If not the cheapest of private schools. I remember paying over just about 380,000 per year.. Check other schools. Its sky high. ABTI /AUN is 3million per year.pls compare.. It is still d sane B.Sc. Besides. The church members do afford the school. That not all church members can afford does not mean a good number cannot afford to go there.. The school is owned by Winners but its open to all. So this your point is very very not valid… You are speaking out of hate. How much does Bayero Uni ( which is a Muslim private school) pay??? No disrespect but mehn all I can hear is hate… Besides. Most schools are supported by Govt Grants in the west. But that school did not receive one kobo. Lets say the school is too expensive. Lets say soo. Is it teeth or cowries they’d use to run the schools. Have you ever seen CU lecturers or staff complain of low pay??? Or non payment of salaries???

    • bibi

      October 14, 2014 at 9:15 am

      What has literacy got to do with taxation. Are you for real?
      You don’t even have any idea of what taxation is all about or what tax is to be used for. Taxing the church, mosque, schools or what ever religious groups, amounts to double taxation. The money has already been taxed in the hands of the tax payers. Get your facts straight before you vomit rubbish. No because you have a personal beef with someone or don’t like the person does that mean, you will give reason to the winds and not think before you type.

    • Mohammad

      October 14, 2014 at 10:04 am

      You people arguing that religious institutions shouldn’t be taxed appear to have been brainwashed beyond redemption. You claim it is double taxation, yet is it not everybody that benefits from the good that taxes make in an incorrupt society? Do you prefer it in the pocket of one person, or in the hands of government that owe you a fair bit of accountability?
      And to those saying the government would misappropriate the taxed income, do you not think that us paying into the system, and more of our tax money being used to run Nigeria would cause us to be more invested because of our stakeholder status and we would hold our government to accountability. The current hands off approach to government will change.

    • Blessing

      October 14, 2014 at 9:35 am

      You MOHAMMED, you need to shut your decadent trap before you go and join your fake Mohammed prophet in hell. If you’re this hurt, hit your uneven head on the wall.

    • Mohammad

      October 14, 2014 at 10:13 am

      Your stupidity is beyond compare! My name being Osunbade makes me an Osun worshipper too abi? As if that takes anything away from what I was saying.

    • Meah

      October 14, 2014 at 4:01 pm

      I’m a christian but i must say this is a really stupid comment Blessing. I’m not sure even Jesus will approve of this, what with his admonition that we love our enemies (perceived or otherwise) and all….

    • Alfred Ahmed

      October 14, 2014 at 2:47 pm

      Though this forum is open for all, I see no reason y a “Mohammad” should raise words of insult on the leader of another religion knowing the sensitivity of religious matters in the country plus how Muslims can be so intolerant to comments from people of other religion especially Christianity. If you want to look for trouble, come out and do it.

    • Mohammad

      October 14, 2014 at 9:14 pm

      Uncle you’re quite funny. I’ve said numerous times that I am not a Moslem. What is it about the fact that a person is neither Moslem nor Christian that is so mind-boggling for some people to understand?

  11. Asgrl

    October 13, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Religion, Crack for the Plebs…

    • Osan

      October 14, 2014 at 9:18 am

      At least its better than dope innit?

  12. zeal

    October 13, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    Mohammed u really need to shut that mouth of yours. You say he doesn’t know how taxation can help the society, ur mosque don’t pay Nepa bills. So whose worse??? Learn to speak about your elders properly, religious or not.

    • Mohammad

      October 13, 2014 at 8:26 pm

      You’re a proper ode! Who told you that my name was Mohammed? And because it is Mohammad it automatically makes me a Moslem Abi? Is everybody called Peter Christian? Even if I were Moslem, does that detract from any of the points that I had raised? You need to rise above that narrow-minded thinking. Stop making assumptions about people you don’t know.

    • liz

      October 13, 2014 at 11:24 pm

      @ mohammad Let me ask u how do u know the Bishop I guess u dont know him at all còs if you do u will know his heart beat for God and humanity also. Do you know how many people he is paying their school fee, house reñt , feeing and so many like that. The school u talked about if the student dont pay school fees how will it be run. Be careful in taking about anointed men of God not only d bishop so u dont put urslef in trouble blf God.

  13. el patron

    October 13, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Since churches in Nigeria are run like a business,with the head pastor/CEO living extravagantly..they should pay taxes like every other business..

    • sona

      October 14, 2014 at 5:00 am

      Lol. Cant help but say this sounds and feels like hate..

    • Lee

      October 14, 2014 at 8:10 am

      @sona. This is 21st century slavery. You probably don’t have a bicycle yet you are fighting everybody. Are you a church worker? Because that’s the only explanation for this behaviour.

    • Idomagirl

      October 16, 2014 at 6:47 am

      Do you know the meaning of the word ‘hate’? Stol throwing words around anyhow.

  14. Ni Ne

    October 13, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    I do not believe that religious bodies should be taxed (i.e. pay corporate tax) however those employed by religious bodies must definitely pay income tax and I would really be surprised if religious leaders/ employees of religious bodies do not already pay income tax. Also If religious bodies engage in income generating activities, then they should pay tax. Actually, such activities should not even be conducted under the corporate registration of religious bodies as they should open businesses for those purposes.

    • sona

      October 14, 2014 at 4:59 am

      Check they are under registered businesses..

  15. onye

    October 13, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s……

  16. jwezee

    October 13, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    YES Churches in Nigeria should pay tax….150mill n paying tax is an issues, And am wondering why Pastor Adeboye wasn’t on that Forbes list…should be no 1. (side talk)

  17. vox candide

    October 13, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    why wudnt he say for what? All he do is to collect and never give back. Government should start taxing churches because its clear now that they are no longer charity organization for a family business. Oyedepo claim to be an intelligent person but because of his selfish interest he is giving tax a different new meaning. He you please ask him if Government did anything for the citizen of nigeria they collect tax from? They should be made to pay tax. GEJ is too weak to do such thus.

    • sona

      October 14, 2014 at 4:58 am

      That you’ve never received from him, doesn’t mean he doesn’t give back.. Check because MANY MANY people have really benefitted from him. You can call him many things but you can never say BIshop Oyedepo is not a giver… That’s a bold face lie…

  18. poison ivy

    October 13, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    What about the mosque?
    They should also pay tax

  19. Sfarzo

    October 13, 2014 at 11:56 pm

    Wow! Nigeria is theee most money driven country in africa if not the world. 5 of the 10 richest pastors in da world r frm one country SALUTE NIJAS!

  20. bruno

    October 13, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    @Mohammed, I think you and I are related.

    • Mohammad

      October 14, 2014 at 10:55 am

      Lol ☺️

  21. Jamce

    October 14, 2014 at 2:29 am

    It is disheartening that the so-called men of God have abdicated their call to preach the gospel through humble living and contentment to be greedy businessmen. They are riding on the spiritual ignorance of their members to live large. The practice for non-profit organisations worldwide is accountability which is lacking in Nigeria. This is why the so-called General Overseers, Head Pastors/Apostles run the ministries as their family business empires with the right to transfer their “controlling shares” to their wives and children. They are not allowed to spend the funds the way they like and any business of manufacturing, buying and selling for profit should be seen as a commercial transaction and thus taxable. The reason why non of the big pastors are not standing up against the political irresponsibility in Nigeria is because they are have deviated from the gospel and are living a false life of fraud, immorality which the government would expose. Thus, they are all competing to be “friends to government” for big contracts, donations, and of course for government to look the other way while they exploit their members. It is not recorded that Jesus bought chariots and horses to go about preaching the gospel. Paul the Apostle as much as he travelled never had his own ship or chariot or horses to facilitate his movement to be “everywhere at the same time” in the name of preaching the gospel. There is no record that those who brought the gospel to us in Africa bought private ships, private jets, limousines etc to be able to preach the gospel. The Bible is very clear that by their fruits we shall know them. Paul stated in 1Tim.6:9-10 as follows: “But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have STRAYED FROM THE FAITH in their greediness and PIERCED themselves with many sorrows.” I believe the likes of Ayo Oritsejafor, Chris Oyakhilome, TB Joshua, etc know that they have STRAYED FROM THE FAITH and PIERCED THEMSELVES with many sorrows. They can deny, but we see how desperate they are to clear their names. REPENT and RETURN to the LORD your GOD for He is gracious and merciful.

    • AlphaBetaDeltaTheta

      October 14, 2014 at 1:34 pm

      Your comment makes me want to find you and hug you. Nigerians have forgotten what true christianity is all about hence the ongoing decay in the very fabric of our society. How can we expect our society to thrive when the supposed agents of change have been compromised in the worst possible ways? The Church in Nigeria has been seriously compromised and people are beginning to take us as jokers because of these people. I can never get over the fact that Oyedepo slapped a person for claiming to be a witch for Jesus. Nobody has slapped him for claiming to be what he seems not to be so whats his point? The corrupt politicians and the fake men of God(?) have decided to come together and blind us to the truths of what is really happening and we are here talking calling mere men papa this and papa that. Aren’t we tired of being screwed from all angles? I still don’t understand how common sense just vanishes even from the smartest of people once you drop keywords like Mohammed, Allah, Jesus etc.

      Lets be guided and be careful how we approach certain matters. If you use the religious platform to make money you should be taxed! Whats so hard about this? Jesus didn’t shirk his civic duties, its just money and there will be plenty more left after taxation sef. In the words of Michael Stipes (REM, Ignoreland) I know my epistle seems vitriol and and spleen venting but most of these ‘agents of change’ are wrecking the remaining things that are virtuous and true by undermining the power of Church (God) and the lost lambs are leaping off the precipice into the trickle down run off pool. Damn my epistle is actually vitriol but I feel better having screamed!!

  22. kemi

    October 14, 2014 at 4:16 am

    lmaoooo!!!! theyve done it again. first of all thumbs up to bishop oyedepo
    secondly “thou shall not judge! ANYONE Only God has that power” #bless

  23. jummai

    October 14, 2014 at 8:04 am

    Ride on MY pAPA

  24. Jamce

    October 14, 2014 at 8:55 am

    The Bible is very clear on what is happening now. I quote, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to THEIR OWN DESIRES, because they have itching ears, THEY WILL HEAP UP FOR THEMSELVES TEACHERS; and THEY WILL TURN AWAY FROM THE TRUTH, and be turned aside to fables.” 2Tim.4:2. Did JESUS not say in Matthew 6:19-21 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.” In verse 24, Jesus declares that “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.” See also 1Tim.6:3-5. Is it not true that members of Winners were given envelopes and they gave OFFERINGS and physically worked on the building of Covenant University? In this wise, are they not stakeholders in that venture and are they given account or taken into account on the affairs of Covenant University? Is this not a clear case of FRAUD using God’s name?

  25. Jamce

    October 14, 2014 at 9:23 am

    On the issue of “Judging” we do know that those who spite CORRECTION resort to the scripture which says we should not judge. As Christians, none of us perfect but to strive toward perfection by the word of God. So pointing out errors and wrong doing for correction through the word of God cannot amount to “JUDGMENT”. 2Tim.3:16-17 says “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.” Nathan the prophet confronted David the king by the word of God and David repented. Saul sought to justify his disobedience and was rejected . Now, if preaching truth is Judging, on what basis or by what standard do you preach to people to repent from their sins? Particularly, on what basis did Bishop Dr. David slap the little girl and condemned her to hell fire? Then Bishop Dr. David Oyedepo became God who judged the little girl. What did Paul the Apostle do in the Bible in a similar situation? He did not slap the girl with the spirit of divination (same as witchcraft). He castes out the spirit from the girl. Our dear spirit filled Bishop resorted to physically slapping the little girl rather than deploy the spiritual weapon in his armoury. I repeat, BY THEIR FRUITS WE SHALL KNOW THEM. See Matthew 7:15-20.

  26. BigBrother Hotspots

    October 14, 2014 at 9:26 am

    It is really sad that people can no longer contribute to discussions without being sentimental (either personal sentiments, religious or whatever)

    About this issue, mine is the issue of “Double Taxation”

    For everyone collecting salary, we pay tax. Tax is deducted from the source for government workers (IPPIS) while for private organizations, it is mandatory for them to remit the tax of thier staff/organization to FIRS.

    Now, here is the issue, my salary has been taxed (i paid my tax). Out of the remaining, i sacrifice to drop offering and tithes. The question is should they tax the church again-who is a beneficiary of my already taxed income.

    Should there be another tax on the money that has already been taxed?

  27. Osan

    October 14, 2014 at 9:30 am

    There is a scripture no one seems to be quoting. Luke 6:38-40. Give and it shall be given unto you, good measure……. For with the same measure you give, it shall be given unto you.
    So as a christian, I simply do this scripture. It’s been over 11 years since I started following this scripture and it has worked for me every time.

    If a man gives to others in millions, why are people loosing sleep over him being wealthy, he will definitely receive in tens of millions?
    Did he take your money from your pocket? I have not stolen from anyone. I do the scriptures and work round the clock and God blesses me.

    Off to make more money, make una dey complain over another man’s cash!

  28. ME

    October 14, 2014 at 9:38 am

    All the tax that Nigerians have been paying, what has the govt used it for,they collect it and spend it corruptly,yet the same govt does nutin for its citizens and some pple are talking about taxing the church. Please the writer should focus on the corruption in the govt pension sector and leave churches alone,are the members complaining or are they being forced to pay tithe or offering. Even if the church pays tithe, they will still be one of the richest institutions in the world and will even do better exploits.If bishop pays tax, trust me,living faith will still be bastardly rich.If the church must pay tax,then all religiious institututions, celebrities,politicians, vulcanizer, gate man, pepper seller, oil bunkers,ifa priest,prostitute,motor park chairmen e.t.c, must pay tax. Please learn to be fair wen judging a matter. Without a transparent pension controlled agency, even if we all payed tax,those corrupt ogas at the top will still squander it. So before we face this issue lets reform the pension structure first, then put gud pension acts in place that will insist that all institutions pay their tax, then thirdly lets see what the funds are being used for with that am sure everybody will even be happy to build a better Nigeria. But when the govt kips collecting tax and doin nutin to benefit the citizens wit it, don’t expect a better reaction. Am sure the average Nigerian will speak worse than the bishop spoke.

  29. ME

    October 14, 2014 at 9:45 am

    Any where you see pension please change it to tax, lol. Was working on pension scheme in the office, lol,bye

  30. Blessing

    October 14, 2014 at 9:48 am

    Dear STUPID JAMICE and all you talking trash from your filthy, empty brains about the man of God; I laugh and I’m sorry for you. You don’t know his heartbeat for God and the people. Covenant Uni is the cheapest of private schools in Nigeria. Others pay millions… That’s not even the point. As soon as people see God has blessed someone, they invent stupid ways to siphon the money. Not happening, haters! God Bless Bishop David Oyedepo. I love you!

    • Idomagirl

      October 16, 2014 at 6:51 am

      How come people like you who defend pastors online are always so rude, uncouth and quick to curse (causeless curse anyway) people? Is this how a true Christian should speak?

  31. Someone

    October 14, 2014 at 10:31 am

    It’s just amusing to me that all the commenters supporting Oyedepo are the most rude, hateful, insulting, bigoted and uncouth.

    • BlueEyed

      October 15, 2014 at 7:36 am

      Irony right?

  32. ben

    October 14, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    yu dey talk abt tax payment….na wa nigerianz and mony d one wey dem dey chop 4 politicx nava do, wat of oil money….na church money nai una troat don dey enta mak una beware ooooo government and so call….na so so ye ye ppl we get 4 nija….criminals

  33. J.I

    October 14, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    This is my take. The churches (in their corporate capacities and owing to their status as charitable organisations ) can not be Taxed. But the Pastors and other clergy must be.
    You can not “tax” offerings/gifts in a church. But as citizens all Pastors must pay taxes from the proceeds of their businesses. At least, no Pastor rich today can claim he is not making his/her money from some form of business. That business must be taxable. And if the money they are claiming to be theirs is from the offerings in churches, then that may be “stealing”. In fact, all gifts (even when the churches give them monies in form of gifts) must be declared to the tax man. And when they are as salaries then they are definitely taxable. The organisations they work for are the beneficiaries of the charity status not the employees of which all clergy men are. If you work for a charity in the UK for example, your salaries get taxed. But the problem we have is who will monitor all these in Nigeria…..and they have brought all these practices into the UK and that explains why many denominations are running into problems with the UK’s Charity Commission. That is how to clear the stables…..

  34. Zara

    October 14, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    To my point of view, the questionshould rather be: SHOULD NIGERIAN PASTORS AS INDIVIDUALS PAY TAXES or SHOULD CHURCHES AS ORGANISATIONS pay taxes? And if we are talking about the churches, we should also be talking about ANY OTHER RELIGIOUS ORGANISATION not only Churches. We nedd to make a distinction between individuals and organisations.

  35. me

    October 14, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    the congregation are already being taxed by the govt. why tax the church again? double taxation

  36. me

    October 14, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    haters will always hate.. we all use same bible and have same 24hrs…

  37. Blessing

    October 14, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    Ma’im, I feel soooooo sorry for you. You claim you are a Christian and every comment you’ve made thus far is so filled with hate, you’re so incensed by someone else, you’ve thrown Christianity out the door, you’re now putting on demonic traits. Your words are filled with poison for another human being. You my friend need to take a chill pill, relax, stop brown nosing Oyedepo’s or whoever you worship derrière. It is fine to speak passionately and advocate for someone you love dearly as its evident with the bishop you are “demonically” advocating for. See how I’ve replaced passionately advocating to “demonically” advocating, as a third observer in all these comments, this is the character you’ce exhibited. Dont be a part time Christian, be a full time Christian. Please apologise to everyone you’ve rained insults, curses, demonic tongues at on this forum, and give we remaining Christains a good name and let us be able to show face that we Christians practice true Christianity. We are tolerant of people, we are passionate about Christ, we advocate for our preachers passionately, but we dont Judge and speak abusively of others. Otherwise, go and get born again or whatever you do, you’re something else but not Christian, that I know for sure.

  38. love

    October 14, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    I love to be wealthy, I love to use my prosperity to propagate heaven…Haters y’all better go get Bishop Oyedepo’s books on prosperity..as for me, I like better things, I love comfort…even Bible says money answereth all things…haters keep hating while the wise learn from those ahead…if u don’t like good things, u are as bad as a witch..advise yourself…shey we all use same bible, do all there is if u wont be greater than Bishop Oyedepo…God Bless Bishop David Olaniyi Oyedepo abeg…

  39. FIZZICHILLIO

    October 14, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    Omo, the only reason I wouldn’t bother about this tax paying talk is because the government cannot, will not and will never utilize the money for the purpose which it was paid. The average Nigerian citizen doesn’t pay tax. Oil revenues haven’t been properly been accounted for, frozen funds in offshore banks haven’t been recovered. Looting here and there and you are asking somebody to pay tax.. For the fans, followers and worshipers on the other end, that your boss does philanthropic works doesn’t mean he is above tax paying cos if it were to be in a country where the system works perfectly the MOG will pay tax but naija na proper gbolo!! So for now (and probably till eternity) the boss can enjoy not paying tax but he definitely shouldn’t justify it. I don talk my small own.

    #Fizz

  40. toyo

    October 15, 2014 at 12:07 am

    tax or no tax payment bishop oyedepo is a staunch believer in God and is a GIVER! infact he emphasizes on this in line with FAITH. You might hate that guy and that is fine! but doesn’t mean you have to disrespect him. if not for anything let us respect the anointing on his head sef. be careful how u use your mouth and your tongue o especially when u tlk about men of God (not even talking about the bishop now) before you sin against God himself and drag yourself into something you never even intended .. only because of one idle word or statement you made with your mouth. its okay to hate people or someone but that doesn’t give you rights to disrespect or belittle them.

  41. Zeal

    October 22, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    @ Mohammed it is very obvious that your tongue wags more than that of the nose of an elephant. Instead of you to speak respectfully about someone who is old enough to be your father, you dey there dey behave like person wey dey smoke shit.. I rest my case, make e nor be like say I dey help God fight im matter. ORZUOR!!!

  42. marishka Ighedeosa

    October 24, 2014 at 6:20 am

    Pay tithes and pay taxes. Both help everyone. You have enough to sow a good seed to the church and to society. God says, we should support both. Give and it shall be given.

  43. SAMUEL ISRAEL

    November 5, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    You only pay tax to the government of YOUR COUNTRY. We are NOT of this world. He is already paying TITHE to the GOVERNOR OF ZION!

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