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Outgoing U.S. President Barack Obama has disclosed that he ‘absolutely’ suffered racism in office, adding Americans’ ‘primary concern about me has been that I seem foreign’.

“The concept of race in America is not just genetic, otherwise the one-drop rule wouldn’t have made sense. It’s cultural. It’s this notion of a people who look different than the mainstream, suffering terrible oppression. But somehow being able to make out of that a music and a language and a faith and patriotism,” Obama said, in a special interview with CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.

“I think there’s a reason why attitudes about my presidency among whites in Northern states are very different from whites in Southern states. Are there folks whose primary concern about me has been that I seem foreign? Are those who champion the ‘birther’ movement feeding off of bias? Absolutely,” he added.

Obama said the colour of his skin had ‘absolutely’ contributed to white Americans’ negative perceptions of his time in office.

The president said: “I think there’s a reason why attitudes about my presidency among whites in Northern states are very different from whites in Southern states”.

Obama told Zakaria in the special interview on his legacy that was taped in September, that he did not mind being defined as the nation’s first black president.

According to Zakaria, Obama was raised by ‘three white people’: his mother, Ann Dunham, and his grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham.

“And an Indonesian, you can throw in there,” Obama added, making reference to his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro.

David Axelrod, a senior adviser to Obama at the White House who now runs the Chicago Institute of Politics, concurred.

“It’s indisputable that there was a ferocity to the opposition and a lack of respect to him that was a function of race,” Axelrod said.

According to him, at least one powerful Republican was personally disrespectful to Obama.

“He (the Republican) said to him (Obama), ‘we don’t really think you should be here but the American people thought otherwise. So we’re going to have to work with you,” Axelrod said.

President-elect Donald Trump, promoted birther arguments, encouraging hackers to look into Obama’s place of birth in 2014.

Trump said in an August 2012 tweet: “An “extremely credible source” has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud”.

The Republican, however, said recently that he no longer believed that Obama was born in Kenya.

“President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period. Now, we all want to get back to making America strong and great again,” Trump said.

He, however, made no apology for his previous statements and claimed that Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign began the birther movement in 2008.

Clinton’s campaign accused Trump of having connections to white nationalists and that he needs to ‘own up to it.’

Obama took Trump’s about-face in stride, joking at a September Congressional Black Caucus Gala, saying “If there’s an extra spring in my step tonight, it’s because I am so relieved that the whole birther thing is over”.

58 Comments

  1. Ec

    December 11, 2016 at 10:02 am

    Of course. And you absolutely overcome of lot of things and did your job

  2. Dodo

    December 11, 2016 at 10:24 am

    I’ve told my wife several times that race is about aesthetics. Strip back all the fashion, technology and civility, and we humans are essentially animals. We instinctly LIKE certain things and DO NOT like others. Some people do not like the colour blue or the smell of ginger or the taste of curry, but no body accuses them of being biased? They can’t explain why they don’t like these things but they just know that they don’t. A lot of white people do not like black people for this very reason – they can’t just stand the way we look, sound, act and smell (a lot of black people also can’t stand whites for these same reasons). It’s a basic animal thing and is magnified when a group of people (like whites in America and Europe) are in a position of power and privilege. That is not to say that they won’t be romantic unions between blacks and whites (and there are lots of them), but it doesn’t do anything to ameliorate the situation, and several whites are disowned or cut off for hooking up with blacks. White patents will draw their sons/daughters aside and warn them about dating a black/boy girl.

    I’m sorry to use this as an example, but this is the same dynamic between Yorubas and Ibos in Nigeria. Historically, Yorubas saw themselves as (from the African point of view) civilised, cultured, respectful, social, organised, intelligent and beautiful people. They saw Ibos as the opposite of themselves and could barely tolerate them. The events of 1966 in Nigeria certainly further elevated the Yoruba nation into power and privileged and further magnified the issue. I personally know several Yorubas (especially the women) who have told me that their parents told them when they were young that they could bring back anybody to marry but NOT an Ibo (bearing in mind that a lot off Yorubas considered anyone who wasn’t Hausa or Yoruba, or who looked a certain way to be Ibo). Let me say here that Ibos have shown the same animosity towards Yorubas for various other reasons mainly, in my opinion, related to how the believe the Yorubas perceive them and issues surrounding the civil war etc.

    I am using the analogy between Yoruba/Ibo and whites/black to show that human nature is biased by default. It is an instinctive animal thing. You can bring in all the race equality laws you like and people will respect it at first, but eventually they will rebel against it (just like the Americans just did and what the British did) because it’s AGAINST their nature. Equality cannot be manufactured or forced on peoples. Racial or ethnic bias cannot be bullied out of people. However, oppressed or marginalised peoples can organise themselves, by dint of hardwork and perseverance, lift themselves to a position of wealth and power. When this happens, the oppressor or discriminator (if this is a word) will have no choice but to respect and work with you, or like the case of Obama, tolerate you. It is not by protesting or making noise that the problem will be solved. Let me again use the Yoruba/ Ibo example. Having been excluded from the mainstream of Nigerian power after the civil war, the Ibo managed to drag themselves up by doing their “dirty” spare parts and trading business. By dint of hardwork, desperation and all manner of “shady” dealing, they created a wealth for themselves which they used to buy themselves into mainstream business and educate their children. They were still despised but were respected for their enterprise, hardwork and tenacity. Of course this was achieved (in my opinion) by them adopting a “do or die” attitude and some business attitudes that were downright “dodgy” at best. But, from the way I see it, it was either that or they turn to beggars and be further despised.

    Bottom line is – black people all over the world have to elevate themselves to a position where white people will have no choice but to respect and tolerate us. THEY WILL NEVER LIKE US and they will do everything in their power to hold us down. So long as we look the way we do and they look the way they do, racial bias will always exist.

    • lorenz

      December 11, 2016 at 2:51 pm

      Word!

    • bruno

      December 11, 2016 at 3:03 pm

      @Dodo

      u are a useless excuse for a human being. and people are applauding ur comment. nigeria is truly finished. see somebody’s logic

      I didn’t know black people had a particular smell (smelling my own armpit)

    • Abi

      December 11, 2016 at 3:51 pm

      @Dodo, if the hate for another race/tribe is natural and based on looks then your analogy of Yoruba/ibo can’t hold water since both tribes don’t actually differ that much in appearance.
      And don’t forget also that children do not share this hatred for other races. Race is not just a physical thing. It’s just hate.

    • Peaches77

      December 11, 2016 at 4:36 pm

      You took your time to write this nonsense?? Though you try to hide, we see right through your epistle and unfortunately, you appear to be exactly like the scum republican spoken about in the interview…. abeg fade!

    • Tobi

      December 11, 2016 at 6:17 pm

      I got to hand it to you Dodo that right there is fluent free flowing bullshit. I’m use to hearing that sort of crap from my poor mental health clientele. Feel sorry for your poor wife whose got to hear that shit every single day.

    • Lauren

      December 11, 2016 at 7:07 pm

      @ dodo, what a load of hateful rubbish. Disjointed pointless attempt to vent your hateful tribalist ideologies. I pity you, your wife, your parents, her parents and the poor pathetic children you’ll raise to be narrow minded bigots.

    • Jamie

      December 11, 2016 at 9:01 pm

      I can’t believe you will write an epistle trying to make a case for racism. And your analogies failed to make your case dear. Racism is stupid period. And anyone who can write an epistle trying to justify racism is stupid. Yes people are different that shouldn’t equate feeling superior over a race. Martin Luther, Malcolm X, JFK, Mandela, Azikwe, Awolowo all fought hard to expose the evils of racism and here you are with your contradictory analysis trying to justify it. Shame on you. You deserve every racist comment coming your way. Since you accept it as normal.

    • The Real Oma

      December 11, 2016 at 9:16 pm

      My goodness, i cannot believe the amount of bigotry in your comment, and worse many people are apparently in support (judging by the no of likes) and someone actually proclaimed it ‘word!’
      What kind of a human being are you? That you will denigrate a whole tribe this way based on your personal bias? Gosh, i am dazed by how much generalization, condescension, and sense of superiority that is oozing from your comment.
      What!? People like you make me wonder how much longer this country can hold up as a single entity. SAD.

    • Fact

      December 11, 2016 at 11:56 pm

      Dodo it’s ok to feel anyhow we want about each other and we are all guilty of stereotypes. It’s what we do with these feelings that becomes an issue. You can think something but it’s the way you react to those thoughts that matter.
      So anybody can hear our any animal feelings they want as you describe it but sorry, they are mandated to treat others with basic decency because we should never compromise on mutual respect and peaceful co existence. Herein lies the real issue.

    • EE

      December 12, 2016 at 1:41 am

      Mutual respect is only guaranteed by violence or at least the threat of it.

      You think the establishment would have given MLK time of day without the black panthers and other radicals in the background. That Ghandi would have succeeded without the violence and insurgency occuring at the same time?? That Nigeria would be free if Hitler hadn’t wrecked the British military? What is the difference between a state with low crime rates and one without?? Better control of the tools of violence.

      I envy you your optimism, but these really are basic things boarding school ought to have taught everybody, the sociopaths you remember from then, the love of a good woman didn’t change them They are out there, adults, likely powerful. You can go believing in “mutual respect” or you can speak softly while carrying a big stick.

    • Ijs

      December 12, 2016 at 12:45 pm

      Wow. Making so much sense

    • Ijs

      December 12, 2016 at 12:52 pm

      Dodo, please ignore people who fail to see the truth

    • Meg

      December 12, 2016 at 5:18 pm

      Point of correction from what you wrote up there @dodo, the Yoruba race does not hate Igbo because of the reasons you wrote up there. If it’s because they’re “enlightened and educated” more than the Igbos like you said, then it should’ve been the housas they should hate. Yorubas over took the Igbos in education and most positions in govt not because they’re wiser, more educated, not more enlightened. But because of the set back of the Nigerian civil war where almost all the tribes fought the Igbos. Yorubas are simply afraid of the Igbos because they feel that the Igbo man is too strong willed and can dominate every body. They (Yorubas) supported the housas and fought the Igbos so that they can be where they are today, it worked for them. Talking about being enlightened and educated, the first President of Nigeria is Igbo, the first Nigerian Millitary head of state is Igbo. The Igbo used to be the wealthiest (Ojukwu in Nnewi). The war set the Igbo race back, and it can only take a tribe like the Igbos to bounce back the way they did after suffering such set back. While the Igbo tribe was busy recovering from the after math of the war, the Yoruba was busy romancing the housas, building themselves, educationally, financially etc. The Igbos lost human beings, wealth, resources etc as the result of the war. But for the spirit of enterprise, the Igbo would’ve still been struggling today. But we shall rise again on the day of our glory.

    • Lacey

      December 13, 2016 at 3:26 am

      @Thank you Meg, the Yoruba people have a very bad of trait of being very crafty and cunny! They are cowards @ [email protected] , you guys are a good example of a daft Yoruba people who are alwsys playing the underdog! The new generation Yoruba are trying to let go of this trait, but I am afraid it is not going to happen! Because their craftiness is deep rooted , except the ones that are totally sold out to Christ! I am not Igbo, I see the Igbos as the most intelligent tribe in Nigeria, they are overly blessed!even as they have marginalized over the years! This brings me back to Obama’s complaint! if he feels this way, how does he expect the average black man on the street to feel! Even black Americans do not like Africans, so what do we call that! Please all asunder should go manage themselves jare!!!

    • Dodo is dumb

      December 12, 2016 at 7:43 pm

      @dod,to think that somebody like you could come here and write this rubbish is beyond me. Comparing Igbo and Yoruba! Height of ignorance. This your new title of the most educated is just after the Nigeria/ biafra war, if not, Yoruba was not seeing Igbo back. It was Igbo, Hausa, then Yoruba, but for the war, that set the Igbo back, who for count Yoruba near the Igbo man in anything? Just count your selves lucky that’s all. Even at that, Igbo (Imo state) is second if not first in terms of education. As of now.

    • Sigh

      December 12, 2016 at 8:16 pm

      @dodo
      Your logic is extremely flawed and dangerous. And it’s sad your wife has to be the dumping ground for such rubbish. Your logic concludes it’s okay to hate another person for no reason. Hatred CANNOT be justified. It is a learned characteristic which can develop into a sickening mentality if that mentality is not corrected. Yes, you can also hate someone or group through experience based on pain, hurt and disappointment. I hated my dad at some point because I felt abandoned by him. I had to stop justifying it though because I was hurting myself more.

      The hatred perpetuated by whites toward blacks is a mindset of, “divide and conquer” and fight for power with a game twist of the survival of the fittest. The analogy of having a preference for a particular color to racism/discrimination/ tribalism is unreasonable idea. If I prefer blue to black, this is something that’s neutral. It has not led to death, torture and mistreatment. Nothing much attached to it. However, the hatred whites have towards blacks is a tactic of oppression and superiority vs suppression and inferiority. You can’t go around hating someone based on their skin color or how they look or feeling threatened by them.

      The “hatred” between Yorubas vs Igbos is fueled on sensationalism, propaganda and lies spread by Igbos. Not wanting to marry an Igbo or Yoruba person is mostly preference or stereotypes we’ve have developed, assumed based on interacting, living closely. Igbos were openly persecuted and killed in the North.
      Ojukwu made effort to separate from a country he felt him and his people were not treated equally in, underrepresented in government. It was a failed attempt due to the lack of ingenuity of Biafra leaders. It has nothing to do with Yorubas intentionally wanting to kill and starve Igbo people. You start fire, best believe you will get more fire in return. That’s just life. And I believe, Nigeria has grown from there. Every tribe has their stereotypes against the other but Igbos are not hated in Nigeria by Yorubas.

    • Funmi

      December 12, 2016 at 11:13 pm

      @Dodo…..God will increase your wisdom…….Don’t mind some fools that never understand their own life talk less………this is too deep for some shallow mind

    • Damilola

      December 13, 2016 at 9:56 pm

      @Dodo
      I see where you are coming from. Many Nigerians lack mental acuity hence your comment taken as an attack and out of context. Your point is, it’s human nature to feel more superior, better than the other whether it’s judged by appearance, intelligence, wealth and a certain standard. We can’t live in Utopia world, we are naturally rebellious and chaotic. If it’s not white vs black, it’s black American vs Africans, European vs American white, Yorubas vs Igbos vs Hausas, even owerri vs Anambra Igbo. There’s always something where we human are fighting for power.

      However, such mindset can be changed if we see one another as “human” race, where we are all bleeding the same red blood and have the same brain structure.

    • jonathan ovim

      December 16, 2016 at 1:23 pm

      Unfortunately you made a lot of undeniable points about Yoruba /Ibo relationship but God help Yorubas.

  3. esther

    December 11, 2016 at 10:44 am

    If only we can love ourselves unconditionally, we wouldn’t have issues like racism, religious and ethnic clashes and so on.

  4. Ijs

    December 11, 2016 at 11:22 am

    @Esther,everything about your begging screams scam!

  5. True Talk

    December 11, 2016 at 3:09 pm

    An article about Obama becomes one about Yoruba vs. Igbo. I pity Nigeria’s future.

  6. Bowl

    December 11, 2016 at 4:13 pm

    @Dodo, your condescending superiority complex stinks to the high heavens!

    • A Real Nigerian

      December 11, 2016 at 5:12 pm

      ROTFL. I love how the complete garbage he wrote is well articulated. It’s like dog poop covered in glitter.

  7. Dodo

    December 11, 2016 at 7:13 pm

    Lol! It’s easy to resort to insults when you don’t have anything to say.

    @Bruno, yes we all have different smells, and I didn’t say black people smell bad, I said we have our own unique smell. So do europeans, Asians etc. Of course you know that our unique diet determines to a large extent how we smell (we sweat it out and it comes through our breath), barring perfume and deodorant? These smells are usually more noticeable by people outside the group. Haven’t you had to hold your breath when some white people talk to you due to the nasal onslaught occasioned by their unique diet? Haba?!

    @Abi, so you’ll look me straight in the eye and say you’ve never said, or hear someone say, “so so and so looks Ibo or Yoruba or Hausa”? OK o!

    • A Real Nigerian

      December 11, 2016 at 7:22 pm

      “Lol! It’s easy to resort to insults when you don’t have anything to say.”
      Just the way it is easy to write hollow, baseless and mind-numbing crap all in the name of being analytical and enlightened when you really have nothing to say.
      How sad.

    • Dodo

      December 11, 2016 at 10:29 pm

      You still haven’t said anything constructive, just more insults. Typical!

    • A Real Nigerian

      December 11, 2016 at 10:57 pm

      LOL! The context of my comment flew way over your head, didn’t it?

    • EE

      December 11, 2016 at 10:53 pm

      He does have a point, disprove his points or move on. Insults solve nothing.

      I agree with “Bottom line is – black people all over the world have to elevate themselves to a position where white people will have no choice but to respect and tolerate us. THEY WILL NEVER LIKE US and they will do everything in their power to hold us down. ”

      Skin colour and disparate religions have proven particularly hard nuts to crack regarding human relations. Pop quiz name a diverse multicultural nation without a clear underclass?? Bet the best you can do is Britain, which should show you the problem.

      I disagree with your Yoruba/Igbo analogies. What is needed is an “other” to hate on, a good war and all those differences you mention will melt away.

      For those with their eyes closed, I refer you to history, humans have always sought homogeneity, how do you think the nation states were formed??? Homogeneous groups butchered and raped the “others” within their borders. So maybe rather than always complaining about racism, form your own successful nation-state and be racist back.

    • Abi

      December 12, 2016 at 12:38 am

      @dodo, are you kidding with that question? How can you draw comparisons between white and black and relate it to Yoruba and Igbo? Along colour lines?!!! Are you a goat?
      Look, go find the Igbo chic who rejected you or the Igbo dude who emasculated your bigoted ass and vent to them.

  8. osa

    December 11, 2016 at 10:30 pm

    Dodo, big ups. abeg no mind them

    Those spewing bile fail to see the point of dodo’s write up.

    People pls calm down. He is simply being a realist. Its like saying ‘there will always be poor people’ in the world. The bible also acknowledges this. No amount of sound and sustainable economic and fiscal policies will make EVERYONE rich. Thats a fact and this is not about pessimism.

    On that principle, there will also always be discrminiation based on percieved superiority.
    Take for instance ordinary mates/friends who sometimes begin to act standoffish the moment they feel they are somewhat superior e g rolling with the “right’ people, or financially better off, or socially more relevant etc.
    In the same way caucasians in america and europe’ know’ that they are better at almost everything than blacks are. First evidence is the multitude of economic migrants from Africa since the middle of last century.
    Take it or leave it but they are light years ahead of us and that naturally brews the feeling of superiority and ultimately racism in a certain proportion of them.

    • osa

      December 11, 2016 at 10:32 pm

      *Point in

    • EE

      December 11, 2016 at 11:07 pm

      One of the foundations of Western greatness was Occam’s Razor, it it walks like a goat, smells like, bleats like goat, its clearly not a chicken.

      Some I guess think whites only need to get to know blacks better. My viewpoint, so far, it only looks like blacks to ‘others’ are either hated or exotic pets. The poor ones will hate for taking “their place”,, the rich ones are using you to signal how enlightened they are compared to the poor ones, a status symbol basically.

      Some people will never see White people as anything other than special, above human foibles, they just might be “irredeemable”. But find me a successful nation state not built on fear on the “other”. Odds of finding prime housing on Jupiter>>>>

    • SMH

      December 12, 2016 at 12:58 am

      Of course you will agree with Dodo, Osa the tribalist, we still remember the embarrasing comments you and LolaRae made on a post not so long ago.
      We know all of you, the tribal bigots on here. You never fail to come to the table when your food is served. But news flash, no tribe or race is greater or worse than the other. Every living person is capable of good and evil, regardless of skin color or dialect.

  9. osa

    December 11, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    *point in

  10. Amh

    December 11, 2016 at 10:46 pm

    Wonder why the hate @ Dodo. Deep down you know it is the truth. Period.

  11. it is just what it is

    December 11, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    I personally do believe we are all created equal and so do some white, Asians and so on, but the reality is, whites are in the position of power and have been for a while and some are racist. Sometimes you can’t just force others to view the world the way you see it. The best thing that could happen to black people is to ascend to the top of the global economic pyramid through coalition and hard work and watch things change a bit. Even when they detest you then it wouldn’t matter because you’re in a position of power, not at the mercy of someone who hates you with a passion

  12. Bowl

    December 11, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    All the bigots crawling out of their holes.The end of all human strife is this; there is no competition in destiny. If any is destined to be greater than you, they will be greater than you. Even if you saw light ahead of them.There is nothing you can do about it.

    • Dodo

      December 11, 2016 at 11:47 pm

      It looks like one “flashy pastor” has been brainwashing you all because of tithes.

  13. Dodo

    December 11, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    A lot of Nigerians are in denial and that is why the country continues to be the way it is. Put bible and sentimebts aside, and look at this thing criticality. HUMANS ARE BIASED BY NATURE. You want whites not to feel superior to blacks when they see all the rubbish happening in Africa? Leave Africa sef! What about what is happening on their doorsteps in America? Even Nigerians in America are quick to distinguish themselves from the black Americans descended from slaves. Why? They choose to forget that the dysfunctional behaviour of those black Americans is as a result of generations of conditioning and degradation of the worse type that cannot be bred out in a few decades.

    Vex all you like, but whites will continue to behave the way the do until we give them a reason not to. One individual shining or excelling is not enough because they’ll see it as an exception; a one off; a glitch; a departure from the norm. Whole nations, whole peoples, whole communities, have to elevate themselves to a position of respect.

    • passingby

      December 12, 2016 at 12:11 am

      You need to validate your humanity to another race. What ? its not enough that you belong to the Human race. You gotta bend over and kiss a white mans asshole. Guy wtf are u sniffing. Theyve beat u down so much you gon believe you are inferior. Well your thoughts become YOUR OWN REALITY, Kunta Kinta.

    • Dodo

      December 12, 2016 at 1:20 am

      You know you didn’t have to comment eh? Pulling out those over used clichés from God know where?! You should have just looked and “passed by”.

    • A Real Nigerian

      December 12, 2016 at 12:34 am

      The real problem with your comment was the crude yoruba-igbo analogy which made little sense and made up the most of your comment.
      Now:
      *sigh*
      You are stating the obvious.
      Who doesn’t know humans are naturally biased?
      Who doesn’t know Africans – and Nigerians in particular – are stupid, lawless, evil people?

      “You want whites not to feel superior to blacks when they see all the rubbish happening in Africa?”
      There. You shouldn’t feel superior to anyone for any reason. Not if they are poor, corrupt, retarded or smell differently. A lot of them are beginning to see it this way. They are increasingly becoming more progressive. Wanna talk about Brexit and Trump? If it wasn’t getting better, there wouldn’t have been protests and you wouldn’t have seen The Guardian and CNN doing what they are doing.
      Man can overcome his instincts. And that racial bias is slowly being overcome and admittedly, it is because we are giving them a bit of a reason to – whether it’s MLK or Obama, they can see that there is no real difference in potential after all.
      BUT, there has been more change on their part than on ours.
      Africa has been getting more messed up over the decade. Look at the crap that has gone down in CIV, Burkina, Guinea, Madagascar and Mali down the years. Look at the tricks Kabila is pulling in Congo. Look at Nigeria. Look at Rwanda. Look at Somalia. Look at South Sudan.
      The point is, while we are objectively becoming even worse, they are becoming more accepting and feeling less superior. Even with all the rubbish going down in Africa that they can see.
      Talk to some white people, get some white friends who are willing to talk and you’ll see how their opinions have changed down the years.
      They are seeing the light even though we keep messing with the switch.

    • Dodo

      December 12, 2016 at 1:14 am

      I’m sorry, but that’s just a load of leftie bull crap. And the Yoruba / Ibo analogy was spot on, hence the rage.

    • EE

      December 12, 2016 at 1:29 am

      Personally I don’t care how they feel, I care about what they control, their wealth, their knowledge, their power. I want those for me and mine. What does it matter what the plebs think, that they protested Vietnam didn’t prevent the freedom bringers from living it a bombed out mess. The Vietnamese didn’t give a a flying toss what the Americans felt about them, they put their heads down and rebuilt their state.

      Nothing is the world is greater than freedom, not the brought kind??????the organic one borne of your strength. But look around, is the Nigerian free??? Economically? Militarily? Culturally??

      We are bound by increasingly stronger chains, we look west for our educational validations, they are the ones we trust to save us from diseases, the source of our cultural nirvana, worse if in nothing else but medicine, we are starting to look east as well. The nation states of the west and east have nukes, Nigeria????? They have a space program, Nigeria??????? They are capable of homegrown vaccines to their health problems???? Where are our polio cures, our aids drugs, our ebola vaccines coming from?

      I was reading the other day about Chinese innovations, outside from the mainstream future tech, AI, Self driving cars e.t.c. The one that piqued my interest the most was quantum science. Its theory is far too boring for a humanities peasant like me to ever concentrate and learn, but two of its possible myriad applications are worth knowing. Teleportation and hack-proof communications. Think about it, call me parochial, hidebound, racist even, but the thought of so much power in the hands of those who look, and sound different, worse, pledge their allegiance to a different flag is a frightening prospect.

      As two great men once asked, Kto, Kovo? who,whom? Who will overtake whom? Us or them? I don’t know about you @ARN, but to me, them’s been kicking ass and taking names and I want us to be number one. Something has to give, so then the obvious questions, do you people know where their loyalties are to lie? or do they choose to indulge in the opium haze of “equality”?

      For the person who thinks of the obvious contradictions when applied to general society, my counterpoint is also obvious. Life is a competition to acquire the most out of our scarce resources, they MUST be winners and losers. I win, you lose, but as we scale up, there is increasing need for cooperation, seeing as aliens aren’t among us…………………yet(?), the nation state is the endpoint vis a vis human competition. Me against my brother, my brother and I against my cousins, my cousins and I against the world.

    • A Real Nigerian

      December 12, 2016 at 1:46 am

      “leftie bullcrap”
      Is my comment leftist because it is crap to you, or is it crap because it is leftist?
      PS: I supported Brexit and Trump, I hate The Guardian and CNN.

    • A Real Nigerian

      December 12, 2016 at 2:18 am

      “Personally I don’t care how they feel, I care about what they control, their wealth, their knowledge, their power. I want those for me and mine.”
      Who is stopping us from getting that wealth, knowledge and power? Are we going to blame the white man gain?
      The ONLY countries in the world that can compete pound-for-pound with Nigeria and Congo (and maybe South Africa?) when it comes to sheer wealth and diversity of resources are Russia, USA and Canada. Maybe China.
      So what is stopping us? It isnt the white man. And damn, in this day and age, if the poverty and death plaguing our own black brothers doesn’t push us to learn quantum physics, or develop vaccines, or build infrastructure, do you think Pakistan having nukes will do that?
      Long story short, we need to improve ourselves by looking at how wretched and sad we have become, not improve ourselves because we want respect from, and to compete with the white man. We sadly have not reached that level yet.
      At least thats how I feel.

    • EE

      December 12, 2016 at 2:37 am

      The only way to motivate a populace is to give them a target to beat.

      Saying “we need to improve ourselves by looking at how wretched and sad we have become, not improve ourselves because we want respect from, and to compete with the white man.” is like saying I’ll win that 100m race by merely stretching my legs. No you win by running faster than your opponent.

      Like I said, I’m not Dodo, respect is not my concern, winning is. I don’t respect Sec. Clinton, I imagine she doesn’t G A F.

    • Abi

      December 12, 2016 at 12:43 am

      @ dodo, put down your crack pipe and go to bed. You’re a nuisance.

    • Dodo

      December 12, 2016 at 1:18 am

      I guess we must be smoking the same stuff then?

    • SMH

      December 12, 2016 at 12:53 am

      What will it take for you to realize that the negative reaction to your comment isn’t due to your premise, it is due to your idiotic, crass, uninformed, condescending, thoughtless, totally unrelated and unnecessary Yoruba/Igbo analogy.
      Grow some brain cells bro/sis, whichever you are

  14. xvx

    December 12, 2016 at 12:50 am

    This Dodo fellow is clearly on something else. I don’t know they type of education you benefited from or the fairy tales you were clearly raised with but kindly pick up a history textbook. Go and look at the history of the Nigerian civil service/military prior to the civil war and you’ll see it was clearly dominated by the same people you are calling names (from Nnamdi Azikiwe to Aguiyi Ironsi) but no you’re the educated and civilized ones while we are armed robbers. What was Ahmadu Bello’s grouse with Igbo people if not the fact that they were hardworking and sought to get ahead of everyone else regardless of the task. I don’t where these fantasies of civilization and culture that is better than the rest of everyone else in Nigeria stems from, apart from Lagos, I’ve been to cities and towns in the same region and the evidence of this mythical pedestal you’ve put yourself on is hardly available, all I see is the same acute poverty that plagues people elsewhere in Nigeria, in some of the most respected towns in the region nonetheless. Rather than sitting down and finding how to make Nigeria as a whole a better place, you’re here spouting idle conjunctions. Better tell those who are spinning fairy tales for you to pick up their history books and learn a thing or two about the so-called civilization. Everybody will sit down in Lagos and be forming civilized, better go to your villages and see the reality people live with. Civilized and cultured indeed.

  15. Mummybubu

    December 12, 2016 at 9:22 am

    All these people pretending not to know about the sickening hatred among tribes in Nigeria. Una just tire me walahi. Tribal hatred in Nigeria permeates through the very fibres of our skin. Go read comments on vanguard’s page and see people wanting to kill each other virtually on tribal basis. In real life it is just the same. In Lagos, it takes you a longer time to get accommodation especially Yoruba dominated areas if you are Igbo. In Owerri, sorry is your name if you are looking for an accommodation as a Yoruba person. In Port Harcourt same is the case and the Yorubas choose to live in clusters at least to feel safe or for whatever reason and anybody who points this out is labeled a bigot. The friction is real dear and it is here with us. It is sickening but I think @dodo is somewhat right.

    • Abi

      December 13, 2016 at 1:14 am

      @ mummybubu, we know tribalism exists. Domdom is saying that tribalism is not only natural but justified. What is he/she/it right about? I remember a picture of an Igbo lady cut in half in the north because of her tribe. Is that what you’re in agreement with? Because this dodo creature obviously gets a kick out of such images.
      The things you walk past will become the very things you have to live with.

  16. Johnbull

    December 12, 2016 at 1:03 pm

    Yep racism, bigotry exists. But there is no justification for it and there is no Analogy that can justify it. When you grasp that basic fact we can fight to END IT. Racism is wrong. Fascist have been trying to justify it since before the time of slavery. Seeing a person as subhuman makes it easier to treat them like animals. So let’s be clear THERE IS NO REASON TO BE RACIST.

  17. OA

    December 13, 2016 at 10:41 pm

    Racism is learned. It’s not based on animal instincts. Anderson Cooper did a documentary on this a few years ago and it was eye opening. I am certain he is not the first and that previous studies exist to buttress this point. I only refer to his because that’s the first real study I was privy to. Babies and smaller children were prone to identifying with any and everybody and were color blind until they reached around ages 5-7. By now, they started being color-conscious and it was determined that they felt this way as a result of household conversations as well as behaviors towards other races particularly from and by their parents that they had observed. The difference in behavior was serious. Even animals sef if you put tiger, donkey, elephant, and lion in a cage from birth, you will notice they remain friends for life even after growing up. Same with oyibo and black children – if they are playmates from when young, with no distractions to alter mindset, they remain friends with no issues long after.

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