“I would recommend surrogacy for anybody” – Kim Kardashian on her Difficult Pregnancies, Raising 3 Children, Culture Appropriation & More

Kim Kardashian is stunning on the cover of Elle magazine’s April 2018 issue. The 37-year old reality star talks to the magazine about her fame, her work ethics, raising children and her difficult pregnancies.

See excerpts below.

On caring less about what people think of her: At the beginning, I looked at people’s opinions. Now I’m content in my life, and I don’t care. The things that make me happy now are different. But I swear you have to be born for this. It’s not for everyone. I know I can handle it.

On being a neat freak: My life is chaotic, so my home is supersimple. Everything has to be clean. No clutter. I can’t have a full phone. At the end of the day, I delete everything that’s not a current conversation. If I need some information, then I keep it. If not, it has to be deleted. I can’t see too much noise. If things aren’t organized, I flip out. My kids’ clothes have their name ironed into them on little labels. I know where everything is, and I. Do. Not. Lose. Things

On why four children would be her maximum: I don’t think I could handle more than that. My time is spread really thin. And I think it’s important that in all couples, the mom give the husband as much attention as the kids.

On her need for a gestational carrier: After giving birth, your placenta is supposed to come out. But mine was stuck. That’s what women usually die from in childbirth—you hemorrhage and bleed to death and they can’t stop it. To get it out—it’s so disgusting—the doctor had to stick his whole arm in me and scrape it off. It was the most painful.

On using a gestational carrier: I hated being pregnant. But as much as I hated it, I still wished I could have done it on my own. The control is hard at the beginning. Once you let that go, it’s the best experience. I would recommend surrogacy for anybody. I refer to her as a surrogate, but it’s completely my and Kanye’s DNA, so technically that’s called a gestational carrier. A surrogate is when they use the husband’s sperm and the surrogate’s egg.

On her relationship with Kanye: He’s taught me to have more of an opinion. I’ve taught him to be a bit more calm or cautious. We’re a good balance.

On culture appropriation: If you genuinely love something, then it’s what you should do. It’s appreciation. It’s one thing when people mock something and are negative. I’m clearly not being negative. Images mean a lot to me. I spend a lot of time on them.

On her work ethics: I was never one of those people who were handed everything from their parents. Even when I worked in my dad’s office, I was doing side eBay jobs on my lunch break. I lived a really great life growing up, but we were taught that if we wanted to keep that up, we had to work. At the end of the day, if someone offered me business or fame, I’d take the business side.

For more from Kim, visit Elle.com.