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It appears that the Catholic Church is gradually adopting a more liberal stance towards gay people.

Just last week, BN brought you the news that Archbishop of Jos, Ignatius Kaigama, spoke out against the unfair treatment of gay people in Nigeria, stating that the Nigerian Catholic Church is opposed to discrimination against people because of sexual orientation.

And now, the Vatican is set to practice tolerance in affairs relating to homosexuals, according to The Guardian.

A two-week assembly of Roman Catholic bishops convened by Pope Francis at the Vatican, on Monday released a document calling for the church to accept and welcome gay people, unmarried/divorced couples, and children from “less traditional” families.

A section of the report titled, Welcoming Homosexual Persons, stated that although the church couldn’t support gay marriage, it would find ways to may gay people feel more included.

An excerpt reads:

“Homosexuals have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community: are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities?

Often they wish to encounter a church that offers them a welcoming home. Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their sexual orientation, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?”

On the issue of unmarried couples living together, the document states in part that “pastors should recognize that there are positive aspects of civil unions and cohabitation.”

39 Comments

  1. Fols

    October 14, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    This is just the beginning…”He who has an ear, let him hear…”. This is why we must follow God and His Word, not human beings.

    • Ashley B

      October 14, 2014 at 1:22 pm

      Hi Fols,

      Newsflash…………… God’s word was written by MAN in the 1st place. so its a bit of a catch 22. to follow God’s words which was written by MAN. and can be subject to different interpretations. If anyone asks me, I would say the problem comes from us accepting n practicing foreign religions in Nigeria. In this case, Christianity!! they(d originators ) of the Religion can choose to modify it @ any point in time and sadly there is nothing you as an african can do about it but to accept it or ur Country will face sanctions and charges of homophobia!! I kinda accept the POPE’s stance. It is their RELIGION and their GOD not ours!! they reached out to us here in NIGERIA thro’ CMS to show us the benefits of accepting Christ and now we feel we can tell them how to run their RELIGION. The Constitution of Christianity— the BIBLe was also not written by us. SO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT OR GO BACK TO OUR AFRICAN gods or GOD!!

  2. Betty

    October 14, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    No wonder! If church accept gifts and qualities from gay people, it will end up with not being accepted in God’s eyes. Read 1Coronthians 6:9… Even if they can give you gifts, it does not put them in the right place or become good people in God’s eye. Homosexual is a big sin like other sins someone can think of. Accepting gay people means working together with them. No matter what it is a sin.

  3. free mind

    October 14, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    Well, in as much as i don’t believe my ears, i still remeber reading the portion of the bible, where Jesus said that he didn’t come to abolish the Law but to amend. on that note , He added that He didn’t come for the righteous but the sinner. Also remeber when St. Peter had a vision where a load of unclean animals where given to him to kill and eat; what did he say? That He can’t eat them because they are unclean, which it’s glaring and obvious that the law states that it can’t be eaten. Then a voice (God’s) told him not to call whatever He created unclean.

    Remember, the line that spoke about Jesus and the prostitute. Well the bottom line is If you know you have not committed sin, be the first to kill or critize any gay or lesbian around you. The case is yours.

  4. Neharra

    October 14, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    This is definitely a great step. Most Christians seem to forget three very important verses in the bible which state that: 1) ” all sins are equal in the eyes of God”
    2) “we are all sinners”
    3) “judge not lest ye be judged”
    No one person is better than the other. We just sin differently. By this notion, if the church has to turn away homosexuals then everyone else should be turned away because none is without sin and all sins are equal. So while I may not personally agree with homosexuality, I realise that I am in no position to chastise any one for it.

  5. hush

    October 14, 2014 at 12:53 pm

    And your point is? So homosexuals don’t have gifts and talent abi. The church still maintains that Mariage is between a man and woman and you will never see a priest officiating a gay marriage. Even during the time of Jesus, when the scribes and pharieses where castigsting prostitute and tax collector’s Jesus welcomed them and dinned with them. It was through reaching out to them that he was able to convert them.

  6. TANTRA

    October 14, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    Men keep breaking my heart. Let me see if I will find love with a fellow woman. As soon as more people accept this homosexuality, I will find a woman lover.

  7. Bunmi

    October 14, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    I pray for tolerance daily, and I am happy it could be spreading to the church. Many homosexual people would like a church that welcomes them, and they are normal people with a lot to contribute to society. I pray that gradually, love would spread and we will accept people even if we do not understand them. I pray this for myself as well. Peace.

  8. Jennie

    October 14, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    dats d only way to conversion

  9. nonye

    October 14, 2014 at 1:38 pm

    People need to control their instinct to over-sensationalize things. The relevant excerpt of the report clearly said that the Catholic Church couldn’t support gay marriage but would find a way to be more welcoming to homosexuals. Gay people are definitely gifted, as much as any heterosexual. The Church isn’t saying that being gay is a gift, or that it condones the sin of homosexuality. What the Catholic Church said was that the Church [as a whole… i.e. Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran, Pentecostal etc] should challenge itself to find a way to welcome not just gay people, but also unmarried couples, divorced couples and children from less traditional families (which would cover children from homosexual unions or children born out of wedlock).

    I am certain there will be no gay marriages in the Catholic Church. For goodness’ sake it’s still a battle for common law couples or couples who have not wedded to receive communion. Clearly a case of loving a sinner, but hating the sin.

    God help us is every sin we committed, be it a harmless fib, a small white lie, theft, or breaking any law whether it’s taking one-way route when you think LASTMA wont catch you or breaking office policy by browsing linda ikeji or BN or doing any unrelated office work during working hours. Just so you know… these are all sins, and equally hurtful to our Father as much as homosexuality.

    • KnowItAll

      October 15, 2014 at 2:12 am

      LOL! Homosexuality isn’t sin. Ignorance makes me laugh so much! :)))

  10. Hurperyeahmie

    October 14, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    Hmmmmmm issokay!!!!!

  11. blessed

    October 14, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    there are two aspects of this article, the one on homosexuality and the other on cohabitation by unmarried persons.
    i am a christian and before you go on to read, let it be clear that these opinions are mine and they reflect what Gods mind is because they are based on his word, The Bible.

    be patient (and with an open mind that is willing to learn) read this bible verses below:
    Romans 1: 20-32. (Living Bible)

    20 Since earliest times men have seen the earth and sky and all God made, and have known of his existence and great eternal power. So they will have no excuse when they stand before God at Judgment Day.

    21 Yes, they knew about him all right, but they wouldn’t admit it or worship him or even thank him for all his daily care. And after a while they began to think up silly ideas of what God was like and what he wanted them to do. The result was that their foolish minds became dark and confused. 22 Claiming themselves to be wise without God, they became utter fools instead. 23 And then, instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they took wood and stone and made idols for themselves, carving them to look like mere birds and animals and snakes and puny[g] men.

    24 So God let them go ahead into every sort of sex sin, and do whatever they wanted to—yes, vile and sinful things with each other’s bodies. 25 Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they prayed to the things God made, but wouldn’t obey the blessed God who made these things.

    26 That is why God let go of them and let them do all these evil things, so that even their women turned against God’s natural plan for them and indulged in sex sin with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sex relationships with women, burned with lust for each other, men doing shameful things with other men and, as a result, getting paid within their own souls with the penalty they so richly deserved.

    28 So it was that when they gave God up and would not even acknowledge him, God gave them up to doing everything their evil minds could think of. 29 Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness and sin, of greed and hate, envy, murder, fighting, lying, bitterness, and gossip.

    30 They were backbiters, haters of God, insolent, proud, braggarts, always thinking of new ways of sinning and continually being disobedient to their parents. 31 They tried to misunderstand,[h] broke their promises, and were heartless—without pity. 32 They were fully aware of God’s death penalty for these crimes, yet they went right ahead and did them anyway and encouraged others to do them, too.

    that is clear enough but you dont have to agree.

    1. HOMOSEXUALITY!
    a-this didnt start in this century and so i wonder why up till now, people have given so much attention to those practicing “homosexualism”. its not actually different from any other wrong doings that as Christians we were admonished against. the only significant difference is that it has become a movement but making it a movement and trying to enforce it doesnt make it any different, a lie is still a lie no matter how long it has been in office. I will never hate them, thats not what we were taught to do. yes, they are doing the wrong things, should it be condoned? No. should i see them as different from others ? NO. we shouldnt prioritize their actions. its no different from others.

    2. COHABITATION OUTSIDE MARRIAGE!
    need i say more! the above verse covers everything.

    Lesson to be learnt from the article.
    if you dont know God for yourself, you will take anything at surface level. Ephesians 4:14,”Then we will no longer be like children, forever changing our minds about what we believe because someone has told us something different or has cleverly lied to us and made the lie sound like the truth”. How would you know God if you dont study Him? you cant know your friend unless you communicate frequently. its the same with God. His word ( the Bible ) is God. we have become too lazy to search the scriptures for ourselves, we have been sunday church goers like everyone else, we have reduced Christianity to a mere religion, we have not even lived half of what God intended for his children and that is why we would be easily deceived in this day and time.

    paul said in,”Acts 20:29 .I know full well that after I leave you, false teachers, like vicious wolves, will appear among you, not sparing the flock. he talked about wolves even amongst the brethren. Shey bi, Jesus handpicked the disciples, yet the one that betrayed him came from his 12 disciples. what am i saying? i am not trying to discredit anyone, i will never do that. all i am saying is that Trust only what the word of God says. have fellowship with the Holy Spirit. who knows the scriptures better than the one that gave the inspiration for it. its the only truth in this world for me.

    take note: it will get worse, know where you belong now.

    God Bless.

  12. damsel

    October 14, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    My heart bled as i read through various comments#endtimetins.

  13. Ezra

    October 14, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    why dont we ask ourselves question,when God created Adam did he create a male for him?d Catholic should read d bible again and tell me if it is found there in the bible.

    • bukky

      October 15, 2014 at 2:33 am

      Are you blind? Or do you simply not have the mental capacity to grasp the Pope’s statement? Where in this write up did the Catholic church say it condones homosexuality? Did you not read, “that although the church couldn’t support gay marriage, it would find ways to may gay people feel more included”? What is wrong with including every kind of person to the church? If the church is not excluding fornicators, adulterers, liars, thieves, gossips, and judgemental people, why should homosexuals be excluded? Some of you need to get off your high horses, pull the stick out your a** and then read the bible and see how Jesus related with and treated sinners! The judgemental attitiude of some Christians is a turn off and will turn people away from Christ!

  14. jessy

    October 14, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    `Christ preached “hate the sin not the sinner” I don’t see why we should discriminate as we are sinners too.

  15. wise girl

    October 14, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    choose this day whose words you will believe. God or man? hell or Heaven? remember one day you will face eternity and then all those mocking God now will not be able to stand b/4 Him. God created them male and female, not male/male. God will not adapt to man’s ways instead man must adapt to God’s way becos He is God and not man. God expect all to repent b/4 it is too late.God loves all humans but He hates sin and pleads with man to turn away from sin cos the wages of sin is eternal seperation from God

  16. xtsy

    October 14, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    satan is also very gifted and talented

  17. bokun

    October 14, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    God creates all sorts. Down syndrome children, blind, deaf , mute. Below average IQ, genius, children born with ambiguous genitalia. To some were given the gift to except God’s creation and discover the gifts they bring to others the curse of having 5 senses that are insensitive and therefore useless. I accept all God’s creation because he created everything PERFECT.

  18. Author Unknown

    October 14, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    This is a common sense approach to the issue of homosexuality, and that’s the position societies should be taking. Sexual orientation is the only difference between a straight and gay person, and if a straight person’s sexuality has nothing to do with their contribution to society, why should a gay person’s? When you go to a doctor, lawyer, or financial advisor for help, do you care who they’re sexually attracted to? If a gay person helped find the cure for Ebola, would you reject the drug?

    • bukky

      October 15, 2014 at 2:35 am

      Best comment ever!

  19. AVID BLOG READER

    October 14, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    This is why I stand by “faith” being a personal thing. I do not believe in organized religion however I believe in God. The most hideous sins in the world have been committed within or because of religious organizations! I believe no one knows how God judges us so live and let live. Live your own truth and let God worry about the rest.

    • MC

      October 14, 2014 at 4:52 pm

      You couldnt have said it any better! my thoughts exactly!

  20. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    October 14, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    I think some poeple need to go dust and read their Bible’s
    Leviticus 18:
    22 You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination.
    23 Neither shall you lie with any beast and defile yourself with it; neither shall any woman yield herself to a beast to lie with it; it is confusion, perversion, and degradedly carnal.
    24 Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, for in all these things the nations are defiled which I am casting out before you.
    25 And the land is defiled; therefore I visit the iniquity of it upon it, and the land itself vomits out her inhabitants.
    26 So you shall keep My statutes and My ordinances and shall not commit any of these abominations, neither the native-born nor any stranger who sojourns among you,
    27 For all these abominations have the men of the land done who were before you, and the land is defiled—
    28 [Do none of these things] lest the land spew you out when you defile it as it spewed out the nation that was before you.
    29 Whoever commits any of these abominations shall be cut off from among [his] people.
    30 So keep My charge: do not practice any of these abominable customs which were practiced before you and defile yourselves by them. I am the Lord your God.

    • corolla

      October 15, 2014 at 11:34 am

      And you need to take Reading and Comprehension 101, because no where in the article did it state that the Catholic church was accepting homosexuals acts. Some of you are so ready to whip out your bible whenever homosexuals are mentioned. It’s as though you are all happy that you have been afforded the opportunity to judge and look down on someone whose sins are “worse” than yours.

  21. me

    October 14, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    Religiosity is a beautiful thing, but hey see that disgust on your face right now? That’s the same ISIS faithfuls have ,hence their justification in the massacre of Christians and others. As much as I know homosexuality is sinful I think the Catholic Church is saying draw them to the church and then you can deliver them/ use the gospel of God to win their souls. The church I guess has realised the gospel of love is the solution. So we don’t have another case of senseless killings in the future where people begin to cut the heads of gay people just because they consider them more sinful than the rapists, murderers, robbers,and prostitutes. ISIS considers you christians infidels who deserves to die, you consider gays infidels who deserve death and the church says let’s love and teach them the way. Let’s just stop fighting God’s battles. Preach what you believe but don’t castigate others for theirs that certainly is like being a pharisee.

  22. Mimi

    October 14, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    @ Blessed, you have said it all. I’m glad that we cannot deceive ourselves.. We all know what is right or wrong. Our conscience will continue to haunt us.

  23. papermoon

    October 14, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Thank you your grace……… especially when we realize that we are all sinner (in one way or the other) stretching towards GRACE to be justified.

  24. Rev

    October 14, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    I KEEP SAYING IT THE DEVIL IS HARD WORKING……..I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POPE IS SAYING…….GAY/LESBIAN IS EVIL THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT NORMAL….THE EVIL SPIRIT BEHIND IT IS FROM SATAN ANUS……THEY SHOULD REPENT AND ASK FOR HELP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE……DONT GET IT TWISTED JESUS WILL COME AND SINNERS WILL NEVER EVER ESCAPE!!!!

    • corolla

      October 15, 2014 at 2:27 pm

      Being judgemental too is evil! oya pray for yourself.

  25. Okaro

    October 14, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    I’m sorry i want to write an epistle,but please do not be discouraged to read it.

    We should not try and justify our sinful actions with “all sins are equal “….So because all sins are equal,we should stick to committing our sins and not showing willingness to change from our sins.

    Because “all sins are equal and he without sin should be the first to cast the stone”,you should not raise an alarm if i kill anyone who offends me or if i come to your house and rape all the women and kill the men in your family.

    “He without sin should be the first to cast the stone”,because of that we should not discourage sinful acts.
    Because “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”,we should not be willing to change our sinful ways and keep God’s commandments and encourage others to do so.
    The religious leaders in the churches are also not short of sin,does it mean we should not go to church and listen to what they preach?
    When Jesus said “hate the sin and not the sinner”….he meant we should hate the sin,but the sinner who is willing to give up his sins,we should show him love to build his faith.
    Now let me make one thing clear.
    All sins are equal and at the same time all sins are not equal.
    All sins are equal in the sense that they separate us from God and lead us to eternal condemnation.
    All sins are not equal in that they have their different magnitude of consequences.If you read your Bible(the books of the law)very well,you will find out that God gave different punishments for each sin according to its magnitude.
    So if Mr A steals a loaf of bread and Mr B killed his brother or commit sexual immorality(fornication,homosexuality),the magnitude of separation of Mr B from God is greater.Both of them have one thing in common,”they are separated from God because of their sins,but the magnitude of separation differs”.
    An illustration;
    A teacher gives the students in his class a test after lecture,and instructs them to answer all questions correctly and whoever fails any question(s) would be punished in accordance with the number of questions failed.Now a particular student gets 99 questions correctly and fails only 1 question,another student fails 99 and gets only 1 question correctly.The teacher brings out his cane and flogs the 2students the number of strokes in accordance to the number of failed questions.
    Now if i were the teacher,i would not bother to flog the student who failed only 1question but i would mercilessly beat the one who failed 99questions mercilessly because the one who failed 99questions showed that he did not give ears to all i said during the lecture and did not show willingness to know by asking me a question.

    So is to homosexuality,the magnitude of separation between the doer and God is great.So also is the magnitude of the influence of homosexuality to the society at large.But if the doer is willing to let go and have a personal relationship with God,then God would let his holy spirit guide him.

    I know some people do not believ in God or any religion,so this comment is not for you.

    • step77

      October 14, 2014 at 10:30 pm

      So can we now agree with the Catholic doctrinal teaching of Mortal and Venial sins? I believe this has been one of the many ‘ bones of contentions’ the Pentecostal movement has had against the Church.

      In as much as I disagree with their muted way of speaking against homosexuality in this document, I believe that the media, especially the liberal media is trying their best to spin this in their favour and create this nonsensical excitement about the church becoming more liberal in her stance toward homosexuality and I can promise all of you speaking hogwash that the Catholic Church will NEVER accept homosexuality as it is morally wrong and a grave SIN against God and if there ever was a cardinal or pope that falls into thinking differently, that individual will be excommunicated with the church. Let’s all not get confused.

      I saw this on LIB and it hits the nail on the head :

      Be careful in your reading of news about the Synod.

      For example, if the Synod makes a statement about the “gifts and qualities” of homosexuals, keep in mind that homosexuals do NOT have ”gifts and qualities” for the Church simply because they are homosexuals.

      Of course homosexuals have “gifts and talents!” But they have them as human beings, not as homosexuals. They must not be turned into some subset that can then claim rights as homosexuals. They are no better or worse than any other human being and each of them have the obligation to respect nature and God’s law.

      Homosexuals are not special.

      Catholics do not object to homosexuals participating in the life of the Church. We object to the suggestion that homosexual acts are normal, acceptable, good, proper… take your pick. They aren’t. They are objective sinful and gravely disordered. The people with the inclinations toward them are obliged to struggle against them just ever other person on earth is obliged to struggle against inclinations, to battle against and resist the world, the flesh and the devil.

      Vatican Radio‘s coverage is a little more careful, distinguishing between the “Synod Fathers” and “the report”. But not much.

      That said, am I happy with what we are hearing come forth from the Synod? No. Then again, we are hardly getting a good picture, are we. The spectacularly bad decision to close off information from the public has only exacerbated the pre-Synod confusion

  26. obi

    October 15, 2014 at 6:28 am

    One thing is crystal clear to me and I bear witness to it. You receive what you believe. Your faith dictates your path in life my believe is in a tolerant loving father. I don’t need any scripture to tell me about my father. I am his child and feel his loving presence. These scriptures people are happy to write epistles about also said about mixing fabrics, and stoning to death. But I noticed how those bits were not included in their RANTS. If you are going to follow script then show people how truly committed you are to your following of the written word and dont condemn your self by selecting text you can use to judge others. As you point with one finger 4 are pointing back at you.

  27. hussain

    October 15, 2014 at 7:57 am

    Very low and weak religion,that christianity for you all

    • corolla

      October 15, 2014 at 2:33 pm

      Ummm, you want us to be beheading people and forcing them against their will, to adhere to religious tenets? Sorry o, this religion unlike some, is a religion of peace that acknowledges free will.

    • John Bul

      October 15, 2014 at 4:11 pm

      is it weak because, it chose not to behead and parade the heads of Homosexuals, please take your ignornant and shallow self out of here and try to make use of your brain in future..

    • corolla

      October 15, 2014 at 8:36 pm

      @JohnBullshit, where d tin dey take pain you? Since you are very enlightened, pray do tell, how is Christianity weak?

  28. TrixzMimi

    October 15, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    Well it is good to to air your minds, in some certain situations, but mind you, some persons allow their PARADIGM to beclouds their writings.Romans 3:23-24

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